Turning Pain Into a Platform with Fitz Koehler

Josh (00:00:02) - Good day, fellas. Welcome to Uncensored Advice for Men. On today's show, we're going to have a lady who's going to talk to us about her story and then how it applies to you dudes on how to take a painful event or a painful story and really transform it to transform your life. So with that, welcome to the show.

Fitz (00:00:23) - Hi team and Josh, thank you so much for having me. I am a raging fan of men in general. I think you guys are so much fun and so capable and so brave and brawny. And I think poor men, you guys get the short end of the stick everywhere you go lately. So I want I just want to let you all know I'm a big fan and I hold nothing against you, I love you.

Josh (00:00:48) - Oh, we need we need that because I think, dudes, we get beat up on now being whatever you might be out there in the world, but being a dude, like, it could be tough, man. So I really appreciate you saying that.

Fitz (00:01:00) - Yeah, you guys are the ones that are okay to pick on. We can pick on guys 50% of the population. I think that's kind of nasty. And I'm so appreciative of, you know, we have we live in a free country thanks to the blood spilt from men. You know, there's been some women. I'm not ignoring them. But I love men. And I'm also sick of you guys being beaten up on. So let's let's talk about something nice today. How's that?

Josh (00:01:25) - Yeah. So with that, like, why don't you tell us what is your name and what do you do?

Fitz (00:01:32) - Okay, so I'm Fitz Koehler and I am noisy and I am bossy, and I help people live better and longer. I am a fitness expert. I have a master's in exercise and sports sciences from the University of Florida. Go, Gators. Go, Gators. Go your team, whoever that is. And I, the way I use my degree and the way I make a living is I do a ton of corporate keynote speaking and corporate spokesperson work.

Fitz (00:01:57) - So I'm either the face of the brand, connecting it to health and fitness, or I come in and I speak to brands, employer or employees and help them do better, be better. We know that healthy employees call in sick to work less. They're far more productive, far more profitable. And then I am a professional race announcer. So I host the start and finish lines of some of the largest, most iconic running events in the United States, from Los Angeles Marathon to Buffalo, Big Sur, Fargo Marathon, you name it. And that's a heck of a lot of fun. My start lines look like rock concerts. And you know, whether you're first or last at my finish line, ideally everyone feels like you won. I just love taking care of people, especially those who are doing the right thing and exercising. And then I'm the author of multiple books, and three of them are part of the Cancer Comeback series. And yeah, make I make Happy Noise, I do a podcast, I blah blah blah and all sorts of formats and fashions to get people to do better and be better.

Josh (00:02:58) - What's the name of your podcast?

Fitz (00:03:00) - The fitness show?

Josh (00:03:02) - Boom Boom, right? And you made it into fitness. That's awesome. Let's let's play a game. All right. Kind of like role play. I'm running a race. All right. This may be my first marathon, and I cross the line. My name's Josh. I want to hear your announcement of Josh crossing the finish line.

Fitz (00:03:20) - Josh is in. And here comes Josh Wilson from Ocala, Florida. He has the sweetest stache of the day. That's right. Josh Wilson is our sweet stache champion. Congrats Josh.

Josh (00:03:34) - Boom I love it.

Fitz (00:03:36) - We like that.

Josh (00:03:37) - Yeah that was really good. You know you really you're the first to appreciate this mustache I because I just shaved it I just got this mustache today and I thought everybody would be talking about it. Maybe that's just my ego talking, but like, my kids were like, oh, gross. So you're the first to like like it. Thank you.

Fitz (00:03:54) - I like it. I've been trying to grow out a mustache for a very long time with zero results, so congratulations on yours.

Josh (00:04:00) - Your mustache looks terrible. It's not there. So. All right. I love what you do. Cancer. Come back. You got to share the story there because with your energy and, you know, talking about helping people live long and better lives. You had cancer. Like, was it pretty bad?

Fitz (00:04:20) - Yeah. I got my ass kicked. Am I allowed to say ass on your show?

Josh (00:04:23) - No, no. Yeah, you're allowed to say it. Yeah.

Fitz (00:04:25) - Yeah. So in 2018, I was living my best life and being athletic and fit and walking the walk as I should. And in December of 2018, I went in, had a mammogram, walked out with crystal clear results. Doctor said, you're good to go. And I was seven weeks later at a race weekend. I got out of the shower and I rubbed my underboob, had an itch and found a lump and it was a size lump. And so I immediately called the doctor. Which set led to appointments, and within about a week I had had a mammogram, an ultrasound, where the radiologist said, not only do you have a concerning mass, but.

Fitz (00:05:01) - You have three hard, swollen lymph nodes. That might be a real problem. Punch biopsy the next day. And then within a couple of days, I had a surgeon call and say, Fitz, I am so sorry, but you had breast cancer. It's already spread to multiple lymph nodes. It is running through you like wildfire. We need to treat you immediately and aggressively. And boy, did they ever.

Josh (00:05:24) - Whoa!

Josh (00:05:25) - Holy moly. What a what. A life gets flipped on its head with you, huh?

Fitz (00:05:32) - You know what? My life got thrown into spin cycle. It just was wild. The way I went from everything was hunky dory and athletic and fun and happy. And then. And then I was spending all my days at doctor's appointments and being pumped full of drugs and cut and poked, and it was just it was mind boggling. And I'm pretty sure that experience runs true for anyone diagnosed with cancer. It just is. It's the Twilight zone. It's wild.

Josh (00:05:57) - All right. Now this is a show for dudes.

Josh (00:05:59) - So we got to ask, dude, you know, like questions about the the situation because going through surgery, did you did you wind up getting a mastectomies and going down the route of of that like.

Fitz (00:06:12) - Yeah.

Josh (00:06:13) - So to ask that kind, is that too personal.

Fitz (00:06:15) - You can't you can ask absolutely anything you want. And here's the deal. If we're talking about breast cancer, men get breast cancer too. So never regard a lump. But so many of you will love a woman with breast cancer. Whether it's your mom or your sister or your wife or your daughter, you know, it's rampant. It's 1 in 8. So I'm happy to answer any and all questions. And truthfully, the cancer experience is kind of it's transferable. So my my guy friend with colon cancer, he and I went through a lot of the same thing. So you know, cancer answer it's all very relatable. But I did not have the full mastectomy, thank goodness. I was very fortunate they had they did genetic testing on me.

Fitz (00:06:54) - And I don't have any genetic whatever predisposition for it. So I didn't have to do the full mastectomies, which I'm so glad because boy is that a nightmare. Those poor women and men, they they not only have one surgery, but quite often if they reconstructed ten surgeries. And yeah, I only had a lumpectomy, so they took a golf ball size out of my left breast and took a bunch of lymph nodes. I'm thrilled to have zero lymphedema and my boobs look great. I thought they were going to look weird, but guys might hear this. I look in the mirror and think, hooray! I've got fantastic boobs! I can't believe one of them was trying to kill me because they're they're they're great. They're wonderful. Fantastic. Beautiful boobs. So hooray for that.

Josh (00:07:43) - So your boobs were trying to kill you? Is that what you just said? Yeah.

Fitz (00:07:46) - Yeah.

Josh (00:07:47) - That's hilarious, but not funny at the same time. I walked my mom through breast cancer, and it was. It was brutal.

Josh (00:07:56) - And what I what I want to take from this and deliver to the guys too, is if you have a loved one walking through breast cancer, right. What advice do you have for dudes of how to show up for the women, mothers, sisters, wives, children or whatever who might be going through that? Like how could how could we show up as dudes for that painful event?

Fitz (00:08:24) - Yeah. So I can tell you that it's really hard to be the cancer patient. And no matter how much help you get, it's a very lonely experience just because nobody, like nobody can go into the MRI for me. Nobody can take any of the chemo. There's no like, I'll take that drug for you today. You take the day off. So, you know, there's those burdens. But just having someone with you, um, I, my husband took me to all of my appointments, and there was days where he had to kind of hold me up walking through the parking lot. Right. He sat with me.

Fitz (00:08:55) - He brought me stuff. I tell you what, there's so many women who have husbands who aren't doing that, who are like, that's your thing. I don't like medicine. I don't want to be a part of it. And they are really stranded. So it's being there for the appointments, being there when she's sick. And boy was I ever mean poor Rob had to double down on grocery shopping and childcare and and also work, right. He had he had to work. But he also took 80 days off of work to support me. I had 15 months of chemotherapy, which was a very long time, 33 rounds of radiation and that surgery or a couple surgery. So anyhow, how can you be there? It's just, you know, show up, hold the hand, go to the appointments, whether it's your mom or your dad or your kid. I think just going don't let a person have to go do that scary stuff alone. And then don't ask what they mean. You can ask what they need, but you also just have to pick and choose.

Fitz (00:09:48) - I'm going to mow the lawn. I'm going to fold the laundry. I am going to offer to wash your hair, whatever it is, or you're I don't know, I don't know, but but be aggressive with your support because even if they're not telling you they need it, they do. Yeah.

Josh (00:10:04) - Yeah. Cancer. Cancer sucks. Yeah. That's like you're going through this right? Here you are, corporate speaker. Announcer. Like your job is to be positive, right? Like you can't be a corporate speaker and be like, you know, or like you have to. So when that hits your whole world. Your identity. Like. Like, how did you approach that?

Fitz (00:10:26) - So great question. I made great decisions up front. And this is really where my my Cancer Come Back series was born. Because I made some great decisions. I didn't really know what was going on. I just am stubborn. And, you know, first I thought, well, I have to tell people that I have cancer because I'm going to show up on all these stages bald.

Fitz (00:10:46) - I decided I was not going to miss out on my career. If I had an engagement, I was going to show up. I was going to do the keynotes, I was going to announce a races. I never wore a wig. I never hid under a hat unless I was cold and I just I knew that cancer could take my hair and some of my good feelings. It was not taking my career, which I've earned. I've worked very hard for, and I know that if I had called in sick for a year and a half, my career would have been obliterated, right? I just don't know. I'd be pouring coffee at Starbucks or whatever. So I decided that, and I'm going to go back because I forgot what your question was. All right. What was your.

Josh (00:11:23) - Question? No. So you answered it. The question is, how do you stay? How did you stay positive? Because your identity, your corporate, like everything was wrapped around your positivity.

Fitz (00:11:35) - Yes. Okay.

Fitz (00:11:36) - So that's thank you for refreshing my mind. So I realized right up front that my business, the role that I play in people's lives is the beacon of health and happiness, not a pain and suffering. So even though I had to tell people have cancer, I never unloaded on social media or on friends and told them how sick I was or what was really going on. In fact, when people ask how I was doing, I just say, fine. And that was a branding choice. That was my role in their life, is to make them better, lift them up. It's not to pull them down based on my sickness and suffering. And that really worked wonders. And it twofold. It worked for them, but it also worked for me because, I mean, I boarded 30 planes out of Gainesville, Florida, while going through treatment, and my real burden of treatment was that I was violently ill every day. So imagine having a tequila hangover daily or a stomach bug, whatever you want to call it, but would board these planes like a zombie and would just figure it out, would get across the country.

Fitz (00:12:38) - Often I'd get IV fluids wherever I landed, and then I would spend the night on the hotel bathroom floors, because obviously that's the only way to stop the world from spinning. And you get real low tile. That's how you do it. And then I would drag myself up at 4 or 5 in the morning to go to my stages at the start line. And this is where the miraculous thing happened, is the second I stepped on my stages, surrounded by these incredible people at these extraordinary events, every single thing that was wrong with me disappeared. I wasn't sick, I wasn't suffering, I wasn't tired, I wasn't in pain. I got to be full force fits Coachella again because I was doing the thing that love to do for the people that I love. So that's a big message. There is. Whoever you are, don't let the shitstorm in your life stop you from participating in your passions. Whether it's Monday Night Football or you love working on a car, or you love painting, or you love being with animals, those things have to be a part of your life no matter what.

Fitz (00:13:38) - Whether your child gets sick, whether your house burns down, whether you get fired or you're having a divorce. In fact, those passions of yours, I say you double down on them. When shit hits the fan. When things go wrong, you say, you know what? I'm going to go play my guitar. I'll be back. Because those are the things that fill you up. They remove stress and they give you purpose, and they they do take away so much of the pain and suffering and allow you to see clearly. So that was it. I made some great decisions. I also, besides my career, I also was fully committed to doing whatever the heck it was my kids were doing, and it really paid off for me. I had a year and a half of hell with so many bright spots, and if I would have just stayed home and tapped out, I would have had zero bright spots and I'm not sure I would have survived.

Josh (00:14:24) - Oh, this is going to be such a shitty question.

Josh (00:14:27) - You could always say pass no. If you could go back and not have that cancer experience with all those bright spots and all that stuff, would you not choose cancer?

Fitz (00:14:37) - You bet your ass I am not a lunatic. I would definitely not have cancer. And it's funny, some people are like, oh yeah, I would do it over. It's been this great gift in my life. I have made lemonade. That is true. That is totally true. But would I volunteer for torture? No way. I just wouldn't do it.

Josh (00:14:55) - Yeah, and I knew it was a dumb question, but I had to ask it because. Yeah, you know, I think. I think what you went through is absolutely shit, and I think you helped so many people. I can envision this like we just did the roleplay of me running right? And I was excited to win you announcing my mustache. But like, I could I could imagine getting on that start line, running my first marathon and looking up and seeing this lady who bald lady, you know, going through cancer treatments and such like that, hearing your story and going, man, that gives me hope, inspiration.

Josh (00:15:30) - I'm going to go run this race. If she could do it, if she could be out here in the cold, so can I. Good job.

Fitz (00:15:36) - Yeah. You know, what's interesting is when I first lost my hair and I lost my hair in grand fashion at the la marathon, it was wild. But the next race, when after I'd shaved my head, was Encinitas Half Marathon in Southern California that we had about, don't know, 8000 runners. And it was cold and with the long hair that I had previously, would have totally worn a fuzzy hat because it you know, we're Floridians, right? We need the help. But I got up that day and I just thought, I can't do the fuzzy hat. I know that out of those 8000 people running this race, I don't know, maybe a thousand of them will have to face cancer one day. And I want them to remember that they don't have to hide. I'm going to go and I'm going to just I'm going to freeze with my bald head out.

Fitz (00:16:18) - But I want people to know that they don't have to hide, that they can still get up and go. And, you know, I'm normally not that person. It's funny how some people say, I want to be inspirational. I don't I want to be compelling, right? My entire career has been to compel people to do better, be better. I look at other people, you know, the guy running the marathon with no legs. He's inspirational. But at the rally, the reality is when you see a cancer patient doing something that's extra, you go, wow. And when I'm at a sort of finish line now and I almost never harp on the fact that I had cancer, unless it's the ability to encourage people to do self-exams and so forth. But I'll say, who's scared? Who's a little nervous today? And thousands of hands go up, or people that really have the jitters. And, you know, my rationale is, folks, remember, war is scary. Cancer is scary.

Fitz (00:17:12) - Going 13.1 or 26.2 miles with a bunch of really cool people. It's not scary. So let's harness that energy, turn it into excitement, and, you know, just enjoy the ride. This is your opportunity to truly live. And fear is crippling. And and I'm not saying I didn't have fear. Had a lot of fear during cancer. And I definitely thought I was going to die. But in our daily lives, what do we have to be afraid of? Especially like pickleball or running or joining a gym? Those things aren't scary. Look at the Middle East right now. That's some scary, scary stuff. There's very rarely something that comes into our world here in America where we have the right to be afraid.

Josh (00:17:55) - Yeah, I used to. I was a firefighter for a little bit and I ran into some really dangerous situations. Sometimes I'm more scared of making a sales call or doing a public speech than I was running into a burning building or placing crap like that. Like fear makes no freaking sense.

Fitz (00:18:17) - No, no. So that's actually a real relatable thing. So back in the day, I used to be a competitive kickboxer. I fought for ten years.

Josh (00:18:25) - Do you think you could beat me up.

Fitz (00:18:28) - If I needed to? If I needed don't know. You're probably a lot stronger than I am, but I'm scrappy. Just put it that way. I'm scrappy, can hold my own if necessary. But while I was fighting, I was also being featured in all of these magazines, and the writers were just doing a terrible job on me. So I would run to a bookstore, open up a magazine. It was Ultimate Athlete or Kickboxer or Black Belt, and they would have these great photos of me and all of this information, and they were misspelling my name. It's Fitz, it's four letters. How do you screw that up? But boy, did they ever. They were making up quotes. They were awful. And I really wanted to write the articles, but I was afraid to ask.

Fitz (00:19:07) - And so for, I don't know, two years, I would show up at the bookstores and leave furious that they made me sound like a moron or whatever. Yeah. And then I was leaving. A particularly gruesome training session was preparing for a fight. So me versus like six people and got time. Well, they would take turns. So I would fight person one on the round, one person number two on two. So they had five rounds of rest and I would go 12 rounds with six different people. It was it was tough stuff anyhow. So I'd get to the the bookstore. After that training, I get the magazine, I'm sitting in my jeep just stewing, really angry. And then I just had that epiphany. Like dum dum, you stand in a ring surrounded by thousands of people with a person who wants to knock you unconscious and you're afraid to make a phone call, like, how dumb are you? And it just dawned on me. So I got in the car and I went back to the office, and I picked up the phone and I called the editor of, I don't know, Black Belt Magazine or something, and I said, hey, Bob, it's Fitz.

Fitz (00:20:11) - Oh, hey, Fitz, how are you doing? I said, I'm great. I got a question for you. I said, okay, said, I would really like to write the next article for you instead of featuring me. I'd like to write the article. He goes, oh yeah, that would be great. And then he said, how much do you need? And I was I was about 21 at the time and thought he said, yes, and he's going to give me money. And he did. And for two years I had been stewing like a fool where all I had to do is pick up the phone. So from then on, my mantra became if it does not cause bleeding, bruising or broken bones, I'm going for it. So those sales calls, which are really uncomfortable because no one likes to hear the word no, make them. If it is not going to draw blood, pick up the phone or knock on the door and make it happen. Man up.

Josh (00:20:56) - Man up. My fighting nickname was the Jewish Hammer. What was yours?

Fitz (00:21:01) - Well, I actually didn't have one because my name is Fitz. Who gives Fitz a nickname.

Josh (00:21:07) - Oh, that's. I mean, it's a nickname in itself. Is that your real name?

Fitz (00:21:11) - My first name? Yeah.

Josh (00:21:12) - What were your parents thinking? Like, what's it? Where does it come from?

Fitz (00:21:15) - Um. They're Irish, and there were Fitzgerald, and they. They named kid number one. Basic name. No one used it. They called him Fitz. They named daughter the kid number two. She was called Fitz. And then my parents just gave up and said, you know what? Uh, why waste a good name on a kid that's just going to be called fit? So, yeah, it's my my first name, my little Irish gift. Who knew that I would grow up and become a fitness expert in my brand would be fitness.

Josh (00:21:41) - It's brilliant. Yeah. Love it.

Fitz (00:21:44) - And you were the Jewish what?

Josh (00:21:45) - The Jewish hammer.

Fitz (00:21:47) - Jewish hammer? And what sport did you compete in?

Josh (00:21:50) - Well, I was a I was a wrestler, but. And then I did a little bit of like a little bit of jujitsu later on. But this was for a charity boxing match. Guns and hoses. Police first fire. And I got smoked. I got my ass whooped by a professional fighter.

Fitz (00:22:10) - Were you so proud of yourself for doing it? Just walking in that ring, it has required real chutzpah.

Josh (00:22:16) - Oh, yeah. It was so fun. And the next day, funny story I got. So I got my butt with. But it was to raise money for one of our, one of our Swat members who had cancer. So we were raising money. So when they're like, Josh, you're up. I'm like, I'm in. I got beat so bad the guy wasn't even a cop. He was a professional fighter. My eyes were swollen shut like he whooped me. I was driving home the next day and I got pulled over and the guy goes, do you know how fast you were going? I'm like, I have no clue, officer.

Josh (00:22:41) - I can't see. He's like, you're going like 60 and a 35. I was like, well, I can't see shit. And he's like, I'm not going to tell you the rest of the story. But I didn't get a ticket. And he, he, he wound up, you know, driving me home. So the well, fighting sucks. It's great though, isn't it? Why why were you a fighter?

Fitz (00:22:57) - So much fun. It just was fun. It's just completely entertainment. I just loved it. I enjoy specifically kicking people in the head. That was the greatest thing I've ever done. But, you know, when we talk about fear. So I was in there volunteering with another athlete who was volunteering, and we had rules and we had gloves and a mouthpiece, and there were some protections involved. When you're out on the street as a firefighter or a cop, there are no rules. It's just you versus insanity, right? So perspective. I feel blessed that the scariest thing I've done well up until cancer was, was fighting for fun, right? Yeah.

Josh (00:23:34) - You love kicking. When's the last time you kicked someone in the head?

Fitz (00:23:37) - Oh, it's been too long.

Josh (00:23:39) - You need to kick someone in the head, don't you?

Fitz (00:23:42) - And you know what's nice? It's not even just kicking someone in the head. It's tricking them into moving their head into the oncoming foot. That head on collision is just, uh, magic. It's. It's hard to describe, but pure bliss.

Josh (00:23:57) - Oh, that's so good. All right, so as you're building your career, you're building your fitness company, you're doing corporate speaking engagements, you're writing books, you're doing a lot of cool stuff. What's the thing that juices you up the most?

Fitz (00:24:13) - Live audiences connecting with massive amounts of people.

Josh (00:24:17) - Yeah. That's fun.

Fitz (00:24:19) - Oh my gosh, it's so good.

Josh (00:24:21) - Do you get scared right before you go on stage?

Fitz (00:24:23) - Never, never. Elated, I get ecstatic. I just give them to me. Give them to me. And, you know, especially when I'm race announcing or doing the keynotes.

Fitz (00:24:33) - It's the same type of thing as I put forth this fourth, this energy. And then they give it back. And, you know, my keynotes, people are standing and cheering and whooping and laughing and their head nodding, and it just feels like I am being pelted in the face with joy. It just I crave it. That's that's my drug right there as live audiences.

Josh (00:24:53) - Yeah, it's a lot of fun when you're doing a public speech, right? Like, how do you how do you remember what to say? Because I always I'm like, oh, dude, I don't I don't know if I could do it. People ask me like, Will you do speaking engagement? I'm like, I don't know. I'm really comfortable behind a mic with another person. Like, how do you do it?

Fitz (00:25:13) - So there's a purpose for my presence, right? So and my keynotes aren't always the same, but I've worked with an event coordinator or whoever's hired me to decide what the audience needs to hear.

Fitz (00:25:28) - And I only accept presentations when I'm the right person for the job to deliver the message. But when I know what the message is and I don't, I on occasion I'll use a PowerPoint with a couple of photos, but don't write anything out. It just comes in from my head and from my, you know, decades of experience and don't know it. It just flows out of me. I have a generic format in my head. I know what my. Purposes. You know, we're going to talk about this thing. And then there's some backup evidence and some stories. People like storytelling, and I like storytelling. You know, it's a nice way to connect with people and make them understand why the this topic I'm talking about is valuable. And then you kind of wrap it up the same way you started or with that message plus some. But yeah, never. I'm never afraid and I don't I'm hired because I have something to say. So, and I've been doing it since I was six, when I was six years old, and my gifted class, I had a Toastmasters class, and that is the most valuable tool for any potential speaker.

Fitz (00:26:35) - If you would like to stand on a stage in front of any type of human, what I encourage you to do is join Toastmasters because they allow they teach you how to be concise with your message. With your messaging coherent, you have an actual purpose to your presentation, and then they clean it up so you don't stand on a stage and say, uh uh, I encourage everybody, next time you sit in a room and someone's speaking, listen, listen for the ums and the ahs and the likes, and then you'll understand the value of Toastmasters. It's really just preparation for the task. And I really do think that if you're going to get up on a stage in front of an audience, you should respect them enough to work to. Perfect and perfect is boring, but work on your skill so you deliver them a a presentation that's worthy of their time.

Josh (00:27:28) - Yeah. You have a podcast show. What's your podcast?

Fitz (00:27:31) - It's called the fitness show.

Josh (00:27:33) - What do you talk about in their fitness stuff?

Fitz (00:27:36) - So the main underlining thread for me is always to live better, live longer.

Fitz (00:27:41) - But we do talk about a whole bunch of other stuff. In fact, I just had a podcast. There was a list that went around. I think the guys would appreciate this. A list went viral of places never to take a girl on the first date. Did you see that?

Josh (00:27:55) - No.

Fitz (00:27:56) - Oh my gosh. So there's it's probably a list 30 long. And the number one thing is Cheesecake Factory. And so there I think what's like that's a fine nice place. And then the list is don't ever take a girl to Olive garden or Chili's or bowling, or to a sporting event, or to a coffee shop or out for drinks. And I think, golly, how hard it must be to be a guy when there's all these stupid rules. Where the hell do you take someone on a first date? I mean, think coffees are really nice? Low commitment. Way to meet somebody? Yeah, I mean, this list was outrageous. So I picked it up and I thought, okay, let's talk about that.

Fitz (00:28:38) - So definitely talk about a lot of health and fitness topics. My most recent one was you 2.0. Don't settle for less. You know, how do you get yourself to be the better version of you? And then there's some random dating conversation. And we talk about races and travel and don't know, kind of whatever strikes me funny, whatever puts me on a soapboxes when I go after.

Josh (00:29:00) - What's your favorite question to ask your guest?

Fitz (00:29:03) - Who is your first Hollywood crush?

Josh (00:29:05) - Oh, Julia Roberts, what about you.

Fitz (00:29:08) - John Travolta?

Josh (00:29:09) - Oh, great. Yeah, yeah. He's awesome.

Fitz (00:29:13) - Who's your present Hollywood crush?

Josh (00:29:17) - That's a good question, too. So might be Julia. She's beautiful. If I like dudes, it'd be Bradley Cooper or Matthew McConaughey. But I don't like them. But, I mean, I like them, but not like that. You know? It's a dude crush. I totally have a dude. Maybe Gerard Butler I have. Maybe I do have a lot of dude crushes out there.

Josh (00:29:39) - Yeah, yeah.

Fitz (00:29:40) - Right now digging Chris Hemsworth and Jon Hamm.

Josh (00:29:44) - Yeah. My wife likes Jon Hamm, too. Yeah.

Fitz (00:29:47) - Oh, Dick. Jon Hamm very, very much. Just like manly men. Manly men. You know what? Any man in a uniform floats my boat. Any man in a suit, any man in cowboy boots.

Josh (00:29:58) - So I don't know those.

Fitz (00:30:00) - I'm very liberal with my admiration and appreciation. You just.

Josh (00:30:05) - Like dudes.

Fitz (00:30:06) - Just like dudes.

Josh (00:30:08) - That's awesome. So for for guys listening in and they're like, oh, this is great. Josh. Like this super, you know, inspirational and compelling because you like to compel. And they're like, does she even work with guys like, how could guys get help from you? Or like what what ways can you serve dudes out there? Yeah.

Fitz (00:30:26) - Interesting. So I don't do personal training. I don't do the type of work that a typical gym fitness pro does. Everything was mass media, mass audience. So if you work, if you own a company or you work for a company, you can reach out and say, hey, Fitz.

Fitz (00:30:41) - Koehler is an awesome speaker. Let's bring her in. If you go to fitness com, that's com, there's actually a button up there that says Keynote speaker. You can click there and reach out. You have a ton of free resources on fitness. Com as well. So if you're trying to lose some weight, there's a block on the cover of my website called The Exact Formula for Weight Loss. Simple stupid science. It's no pills, no diets, no supplements or shakes or snake oil at all. It's just you learning how to eat the right amount of the right food for the size you want to be. Men are awesome at this because you're smart and you don't make these same excuses women make. So I will give both genders the exact formula for weight loss and women will say, oh my gosh, it's simple, but it's Friday night or I have my period or whatever. They're always making an excuse to bypass the system. And men just go, oh, that's it. Is it really that simple? And they say, yeah.

Fitz (00:31:39) - And then they're £40 down with shredded abs. So exact formula for weight loss is there. And again it's free. It's just science. And I give it to you in a simple stupid format as possible. There's a ton of free videos. And then of course I have my books. My books are available wherever they're sold. But if you love a cancer patient, love a recent cancer survivor, it's my noisy cancer comeback. That's the memoir, Your Healthy Cancer Comeback. That's the guidebook to help cancer patients and survivors go from sick to strong. And if they're having any sort of cancer treatment at all, it is inevitably going to impact their health, their strength, their stamina, their mobility, their balance. And so this is the book that I want in every cancer patients hand worldwide. And thankfully, it does sell globally. But I like it when people buy the books that fitness. You can also get it on Amazon and Barnes and Noble. But they make great gifts. And yeah, I mean, people could just connect with me fitness on social media and don't just say, don't just follow, say hi.

Fitz (00:32:43) - I heard you on Josh Wilson's podcast and I'm always looking for new new online besties, especially cool dudes.

Josh (00:32:51) - That's awesome. So final question. While we're doing this interview, there's probably a question that I should have asked you that you're like, you know what? I really wish Josh would have asked me this. Like, after we hit stop record, like, is there a question that I'm like that you were like, Josh, you should have done this and I missed it.

Fitz (00:33:09) - Yeah. Ask me, what is my advice for everybody right now?

Josh (00:33:13) - What's your advice for everyone right now?

Fitz (00:33:15) - Right now what I would like people to do is prepare their body to do battle today, because you never know when illness or injury will strike. So if you've allowed health to become on the back burner and you haven't been exercising or eating right, and you're not so thrilled with your lot in life, know that at some point you will be struck by lightning or hit by a car, or diagnosed with something yucky.

Fitz (00:33:40) - And if you are fit and strong going into that crisis, you will rebound and recover far more efficiently and effectively than if you had gone into that crisis like a weakling. So start prioritizing your health now. You don't have to be perfect. You don't have to be the old slugger you were in high school. You just have to do better than you were. Be better than you were yesterday. Aim to get 1% better each day. Start small and you pair that healthy body with your healthy mind. You will be unstoppable. You will have everything you want in the world.

Josh (00:34:13) - Unstoppable. That's awesome. Thank you so much for coming one more time. Working guys. Go to connect with you.

Fitz (00:34:19) - Yeah, fitness and fitness on Instagram and Facebook and YouTube and I'm somewhere on TikTok. And I would love all your listeners to say hello and give me that blow you a kiss emoji that really when runners come by my finish line and they blow me kisses, I swoon a little bit.

Josh (00:34:37) - So are super cool.

Josh (00:34:38) - Hey and John, if John Hamm's listening, or one of the Hemsworth brothers and they they reach out to you, to you, you wouldn't mind that as well, would you?

Fitz (00:34:45) - I'm okay with all of the above. Yes.

Josh (00:34:48) - That's super cool. Well, thanks for coming on this show, guys out there. As always, reach out to our guests and say thanks for for coming on the show and sharing the message. Go buy some books. If you have someone in your life that's struggling with with cancer, maybe it's yourself or whatever, go check out the books and if you don't have money, I'll buy it for you. You could always reach out to uncensored advice for men that we have a little contact form if if you need any help there. But I love you guys and we'll talk to you all on the next episode. See everybody. Bye.