From the Desert to Navy Seal with JP Bolwahnn

Josh
 All right, fellas. Welcome back to an censored advice for men. We've interviewed porn stars, pastors, and kind of everything in between to answer the questions you guys have and give advice that you need. Right? So this show is for men. We do have women listeners. And, and, but this shows for you guys, this is for the hard driving guys who are on a mission, trying to accomplish it and making a lot of mess in the meantime that shows for you guys, people just like me, my fellow dudes with that, let's welcome our new guests, JP, welcome to the show. 

 JP
 Right on. Thank you. Glad to be here. 

 Josh
 Glad to have you. All right. JP, tell us something about yourself that nobody in the world knows Your deepest, darkest secret. No, I'm just kidding. But th yeah. Tell us something that many people don't know about you. 

 JP
 Oh, shoot. I was just thinking about this the other day too. Cause there's, like every now and then you play that game. Like I dunno something like, yeah. Tell us something about yourself. So yeah. I guess one thing that maybe not a lot of people know is that I've been struck by lightning. 

 Josh
 That's awesome. And you survived. 

 JP
 Yeah. Yeah. Unfortunately, somebody else didn't, but I mean, yeah, I was playing rugby out on the east coast and it kinda like the close to an Apolis or maybe Baltimore is in Maryland and we're playing sevens rugby. It's like seven on seven and it's a sunny day, but pretty humid. All of a sudden, the storm just comes rolling through and were like, oh my gosh. We had all our stuff because it was sunny underneath the tree. Like idiots, we go and grab our stuff out from underneath the tree. And, we had a umbrella to, I pick up the umbrella. As soon as I pick up the umbrella, not kidding. It's like, it's like, you would think I'm telling this, like making this s**t up. A lightning bolt comes down through the tree hits like nine of us. It throws my one friend, like on a 10 feet, maybe skips over the girl I was with at the time and hits him, throws him 10 feet. 

 JP
 It basically felt like somebody just hit me over the top of the head and I just went down. And, and when I kinda got my senses back, I just got out away from the tree as far as possible. I looked back and I see my buddy's dad and somebody starting to do like CPR on him and yeah. Yeah. And it was just, it was nuts. It was just, since like my body felt tingly and my feet were like a little red and stuff and yeah, it was crazy. Yeah. I haven't, no, I don't really talk about that much. 

 Josh
 Wow. This is a great way to start out. Like you've been struck by lightning and you survived when the guy seen him right next to you. Now you've been in these situations before. Right. Give us an idea of what you're doing now and maybe some of your background, right. This is a good foray into that. 

 JP
 Yeah. Yeah. So right now I'm coaching men. I do have women's groups too, but it's mainly men and coaching them on fitness and time management and mindset basically. The name of the company is higher level coaching. I also have a podcast to highly effective man. And so really focused on that. I'm a firefighter as well and here on Kauai. And how did I get here? Well, out of high school, when became a Navy seal, did 13 years in the teams got out, went to participated a lot in CrossFit and teaching CrossFit all around the world, played football at the university of San Diego in my thirties. That's where I met my wife. He's from Kauai. We ended up moving out here in 2015, did of things and like real estate, but, and then she made my way back to 18, which is now the fire department. 

 JP
 So yeah. Very cool. 

 Josh
 So, so fellows were chatting with the guy from high school and he briefed over this. Yeah. Then I became a seal. Did that 13 years on the team and train, train people, CrossFit all around the world. I, in my thirties joined the football team and I did walk on. Now I'm a firefighter and I trained people international. Hey bro, you got a pretty cool story. And you got struck by lightning. All right. So now here's one disappointment, JP. I have already, now I was looking at your picture earlier. He sent in this picture, like his image, headshot, whatever. They had the best mustache like it, it's a firefighter mustache, and now he looks like he's 12. 

 JP
 I tell you, I saw, it's funny. Cause I just went to a wedding this past weekend in San Diego and I saw this guy and he had like a nice mustache and I was so jealous. I was like, gosh, I was like, I shouldn't have shaved my mustache. 

 Josh
 Yeah. Why'd you let it go. Like, that's the real story here? Why did you shave your. 

 JP
 Yeah, I feel like if you can grow a good mustache, you should never shave it. Right. It's kinda one of those things that just kind of comes and goes like every Movember I do it because it's raising money and I do it to raise money and so, sometimes it'll be there for a long time and sometimes I just, I shave it off, but it'll come back in November for sure. 

 Josh
 Do you equate, like now you were a seal, right? Like shaving your mustache. That the equivalent of ringing the bell? 

 JP
 If that was the case? I would not do it. 

 Josh
 I dunno. I see it. I'm just kidding. I'm a wanna be man. Like I was a firefighter for . I'm pretty tough, but not man. I could not do the cold water. 

 JP
 Yeah. How did you. 

 Josh
 Mean with the cold water? That to me would be just put a bullet in me. Like I don't want to go in cold water. 

 JP
 Yeah. I mean, I I'd say that's probably one of the main things, if not the main thing that gets a lot of people, because you think you're Southern California. It's not going to be cold or whatever, but I, water gets cold. I was just out of here, out there this weekend and me and my buddy were kind of close to the beach and we're like, man, this is like, you can feel that cold air coming off the ocean and then the water's cold and you're just like, oh man, it's just bringing back bad memories. You're just like, but yeah, you just, I guess you try not to think about the cold water and then you just try to put your mind somewhere else and envision, I guess maybe where you're going or what you're trying to do. At the time it's just like, okay, don't think about it. 

 JP
 Don't think about it, but your body will make you think about it because it just starts shaking and it's painful after awhile. 

 Josh
 Yeah. Nah, man, if my I'm in Florida, right. Like we go to the Springs and the water 72, but it could be 90 outside. So it's like, yeah. Cold water, me, man. What inspired you to go seal? What inspired you to, go Navy seaman? 

 JP
 Yeah, it's the whole idea of me going in the military was so that I could get money to go to college and, do the GI bill thing and then go to college and try to walk on somewhere. I played football as a high school kid, but what you can't see from the screen is that I'm five, six, a hundred and eighty pounds. When I was a high school kid, I was five, four, a hundred and fifty pounds, ? I mean, I was a good running back and I did really well, like in the state of New Mexico, but there's nobody recruiting some running back this five, 440 pounds or 150 pounds. Right. So, so I was like, all right, hopefully I'll grow. I'll, get some money, go to college, that type of thing. I went to the recruiting office, I checked out the different recruiters and I was like, okay, I'm not just going to do anything. 

 JP
 I'll just, see what's out there. I ended up going to like an air force, PJ, paragraphs, you're looking at him or that guy. He's telling me is like, well, we have this like, pararescue. I was like, oh, that sounds really cool. Like, you jump in and go and save guys at it, pilots and stuff. I was like, that sounds pretty cool. I had heard that air force pays the well, pays the best. I was like, well, let me go check out some other stuff. Think I talked to some of the people in there like, oh, you want to be a Marine? I was like, okay, I'm going to go check out the Marines. I go to the Marines and there's a Marine recruiter and a Navy recruiter right next to each other. I walked into the Marine recruiters and they're talking to me about force recon and they're like, these guys are awesome. 

 JP
 And I'm like, yeah, that sounds cool. There's like a cutout in the wall, like a little passageway to the Navy recruiting office because the Navy and the Marine Corps, they're all part of the same, department. Right. It's all part of the Navy. Yeah. You hear that joke, like they say, yeah, the Marines is the men's department, ? And so. 

 Josh
 Ladies' dressing room. 

 JP
 No, no. I went in the men's dressing room and then ended up going into, I guess, the ladies. Right. So, but the way that I got there, it was kind of funny because he's telling me about the force recon and I'm looking over through the cutout in the wall and there's like these couches and there's a TV. I see these guys like jumping out of airplanes, like diving and shooting and stuff. I'm like, I was like, that sounds cool. I was like, but I was like, what do those guys do over there? He's like, oh, you don't want to know about those guys. It was like a perfect setup because then the Navy recruiter walks out from around the corner as if he was listening. And he's like, yeah, you do. He's like, come on over here. He tells me, Navy seals this that, and he's like these guys, they haven't made it. 

 JP
 He's like, they sit on the beach with their shorts, they drink beer that, they haven't made. And I was like, sign me up. Let's go. You know? Then, six months later, I'm going through bootcamp and the more like between those six months, I was like, oh my God, what'd I just sign up for, and I get, to buds and I see people walking on crutches and I was like, oh my God, like what's going on? After you get there, you got like, alright, now I know what I'm doing. Okay. Let's really focus in on what I gotta do and just not quit. You have to wake up every day and just be like, all right, I'm going to keep moving forward. This sucks. I'm getting kicked in the nuts every freaking day, ? And it's just like, yeah. All right. 

 Josh
 5, 6, 180. 

 JP
 Yeah. Yeah. Actually I'm one 70 now, but yeah, I'm typically around 180. 

 Josh
 You walked in there. 5, 6, 180. 

 JP
 Oh, no. I walked in there at five, probably 5, 5, 5, 4, 1 50, something like that. Yeah. 

 Josh
 Dang. All right. Were you prepared physically for that adventure? 

 JP
 No. No. Cause so after bootcamp, I, I, I barely passed the screening tests. Like I signed a contract that it was like, okay, yeah, you signed up for six years, but you got to pass all these tests. If you pass all these tests, you can go to try to become a seal. It's a big recruiting tool. They use that to, get a lot of people to sign up and then they know that people are going to wash out and then the Navy can just put them anywhere they want. Yeah. I was like, I didn't know any better. I was like, yeah, I signed it. I go to an ACE school, which is like a, at that time there was a school where they would send you because they know you're probably going to wash out. That they have somewhere to push you to somewhere in the Navy right away. 

 JP
 I go to this ACE school, I start running and swimming. At that time I had no idea how to do sidestroke or anything. I grew up in New Mexico and wasn't a swimmer. I knew how to breaststroke just from being in the pool. I, I started working on my swimming and that type of stuff. I get to buds and, no matter what kind of training you do, you're just not prepared for the amount of work you do. And, and because if you can do a thousand pushups, they're going to make you do 2000. Yeah. And it's just, it's, they're gonna, we push people to their breaking point. Basically. You're going to find where that is and just keep pushing. I had what they call Bud's knee. That's just like Leo tibial band syndrome. Right. Where you get some inflammation on the side of the knee. 

 JP
 I was struggling and I was supposed to class up with a class, but ended up getting pushed back to another class and then started week one, day one with the class that I graduated. And, but yeah, I went through some struggles there and, had to get, go to a board and had one instructor who hated my guts and then had another instructor who loved me and was like, this has be awesome. And I was 18 at the time. Like that was super young back then for being at buds and, going through all that s**t. Yeah. 

 Josh
 So coming from the Mexico desert, right. It's pretty much New Mexico is that desert. I'm looking at you guys on a map. There's no water around. No, you have to swimming pools and bathtubs. 

 JP
 Yeah. To. 

 Josh
 Get in tossed into the ocean cold water. 

 JP
 Yeah. I think the only advantage you have in New Mexico is it's a higher elevation. So, okay. Maybe you have some help with the cardio there, but going to bootcamp and then Virginia Beach for a school, and then back to San Diego is like, that's all gone. 

 Josh
 What was your, a school backup plan if you got washed out? 

 JP
 Oh my God. So it sounded cool. Right. It was like operations specialist. That's what, it sounds really cool. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm a specialist in operations. Here's what it really is. Right. It's like, you could probably make a meme out of this. Right. It's like, you're sitting behind a, a circle, like it's the radar thing. Right. You're looking at this thing going around and your job is to figure out if what's coming at you is like a friendly plane or a missile, or know, just know all these different contacts and different things like in the Navy. It's like, what you see, I dunno. Maybe you see like, in movies back in the day where like, they're looking at this like little thing that's going around and around. Yeah. That's an operation special. They write back, they don't do this anymore. Back in the day they used to like, right. 

 JP
 You had to learn how to write backwards so that you could write on the glass and the guy that the officer in charge or whatever could read it. Right. Because they're on the other side of the glass. 

 Josh
 Wow. So that was your washout, right. That was, that was what would happen if you didn't make it. 

 JP
 Right. So. 

 Josh
 They're betting essentially that you're not going to make it. 

 JP
 Right. 

 Josh
 Right. Okay. Right. You had one office, one of the instructors who hated your guts, why did they hate your guts? What is it about JP thought minus the mustache gone. 

 JP
 Yeah. Yeah. I think he thought I was sandbagging. Like, because that I had a lot of pain in my knee. So, and as an instructor, you're like, you're there to weed out the weak guys and that type of stuff. So, and the guys that, you feel like aren't going to be a good fit in the teams and, that's kind of under the table, I guess you could say, but like, it's like, okay, is this guy gonna be a good guy for the teams are not sure. I think he felt like I was sandbagging or I was just making s**t up or whatever. As I was in, what's called a psych holding phase or whatever, it was like a, they call it PTRR, I don't know what it stands for. Maybe pre-training something. As I'm going through that and healing up, he would just rag on me every day, just, yeah, killing me, like trying to make me quit. 

 JP
 It wasn't until I was like actually healthy again. Were doing some sprints or something like that. I was like, I'm going to f*****g smoke this guy. I was like, f**k this guy. I was like, and so I did it in a way to where I was just like, it was like a sprint. I was just like, looking over my shoulder, like yeah, m**********r. 

 Josh
 But. 

 JP
 It was funny because maybe he was pushing me to see if, how far I'd go. After that day he just kinda like left me alone and so it was just. 

 Josh
 Smoked him on the run. 

 JP
 Yeah. It was just like, yeah. So I started putting out maybe harder. I don't know. It was just, you know, healing up. 

 Josh
 Yeah. Do you think, what drove you other than smoking that dude? Like putting them in the dust? What kept you there? What, what prevented you from quitting? Because what, I mean, the fail rate out of buds is massive, especially like hell week. 

 JP
 Oh yeah. 

 Josh
 Massive. It's only like 2% get through or something like ridiculous. 

 JP
 It's crazy. My class, we started with 160 plus guys of those original and 60, we had 16 originals, me being one of the originals, make it through and then 19 rollbacks from other classes. Right. So, people will tell you, it's like 85%, 90% fail rate, but it's actually higher than that. It's like, and when you include somebody that starts and then finishes what it takes. For me, I think, and I've thought about this too. It's like, there's people back home that like, I was like, oh, I'm going to go, come become a Navy seal. These are like some of my friends too. They're like, okay. Yeah. Right. Oh yeah. Ha like JP is going to go be a Navy seal. Like, yeah. Okay. Like, doubting me, I had some issues growing up, like I had a father that a stepfather, I lost my father at five years old. 

 JP
 I had a stepfather that came into my life around nine years old. I just made my life hell. And so I wanted to get away. I didn't want to go back to Albuquerque. I had gotten in some trouble, trying to find people to, fit in with, I guess. And, and I was like, I'm not going back to that life. I'm going, this is what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna make something of myself because everybody thinks that, I'm not going to, so I'm like, yeah, we'll see. 

 Josh
 M***********s. 

 Josh
 Right. 

 Josh
 Like I'll. 

 Josh
 Show. 

 JP
 You. Yeah. Yeah. 

 Josh
 Yeah. That's interesting. What was your, what was your nickname? 

 JP
 So, so I had, okay, so I didn't have a nickname in, well, I guess I did with some friends in the, in the teams just because they knew when they heard my nickname and I wasn't afraid to say this because I don't want it to get, come back. Anyway, So when I was playing football, because I was so small, right. There was a guy that would do all the radio stuff. This is before like, they're putting all this stuff on TV. I graduated in 95, like high school. There was like radios and guys were like doing radio broadcast. They're like, and bowl one, for another Kerry man, he's a peanut. All right. After that, all my friends, everybody was just like peanut, peanut, ? I still have friends from high school. Once I had some friends from high school visit me when I was in the teams and they're like, peanut, and then, some of the other two guys were like, wait, what did he call. 

 Josh
 You? Nothing shut up. Yeah. Yeah. 

 JP
 Yeah. So, yeah, peanut kinda stuck around for and there's only like a few friends that, still call me that. But it's funny. 

 Josh
 Yeah. Because now anybody you, that they're dead, you like. 

 JP
 Buried somewhere. 

 Josh
 I get it, man. That's yeah. That's a good one. Do where I live by the way? Do you. 

 JP
 Know? 

 Josh
 Okay. Peanut. Since you don't know where I live, sounds good. That's a great nickname, man. Yeah. Please don't find me and hurt me. So, all right. So here we are. You did 13 years with the teams, right? 

 JP
 Right. 

 Josh
 In, in that, what did you, what do you think is something that you miss most about being with those people? 

 JP
 Oh, it's yeah. It's the guys, man. It's and I think that's, what's driven me to always want to be around a bunch of guys or in a team of guys because it's, there's something about being around other guys, being able to joke and have fun and, just kind of roast each other, whatever it is, like that's a lot of fun, ? And, and it's something that you can't get in a lot of places. Especially with team guys, there's something about being around other team guys. It's like, okay, I know exactly what you've been through, to get to where you are. There's just like there's a tighter bond there. Right. And, and, the kind of hell and that this guy would lay down his life for you, if s**t really hit the fan. Yeah. That's what I miss the most when after I transitioned out of the military, that was hard to find, very hard to find. 

 JP
 And, you could say, okay, playing team sports and stuff like that, like, yeah, I played football, but like, and I have really close friendships from the guys that I played football, but if I'm in a firefight, I don't know. Yeah. And, and so I think that's one of the things that I miss the most, and the closest thing to that now is being a firefighter, right? Like you have a, your crew of guys and, you get to know them really well. That, if you go into a fire or whatever, like they're going to do everything they can to help you out. That's, That's probably the number one thing that drove me because I went to real estate right out of getting out in San Diego. But it was funny. Like, it was really weird. It was just like, I'm looking for that team aspect, but you're just on your own. 

 JP
 And, you know, yeah. You work at a company, but it's just not the same, and you have to be careful with what you say. 

 Josh
 Yeah. If people have never experienced, like playing rugby or football or wrestling or firefighting, or I've never been sealed. I can't even, associate, but like behind closed doors, The s**t that you say to each other and the first thing and the fun, like you, like when you're out in the public world, like, there's so many funny things I want to say when I'm sitting across from somebody I'm not allowed to see. Yeah. 

 JP
 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, if I said some of the s**t, I'd say to my friends in front of my wife, like, she'd be like, what the f**k? 

 Josh
 You're. 

 JP
 Sick, you know? Yeah. 

 Josh
 Here's the thing when I was, I did, I was a firefighter medic for awhile and, ride the bus. I started on an ambulance, which I hated. I finally got to be on a truck, which is awesome. Right? Yeah. The fun that you have, but the way I coped with things and I still do this and I have to apologize sometimes the way I cope, I've got life and death hat. I've got tattoos that describe some of the things I've seen and done. The way I cope with tragedy is I have a nervous laugh. I'd make a joke about it. That's how I cope with it. Or I get dark. I go dark pretty quick. Have you seen that? Like, you've probably experienced some things on it. I'm assuming, like, how do you cope with tragedy or with things that you've had to do or see, or that happened around you? 

 Josh
 How do you, how did you find coping? 

 JP
 I think, growing up in Albuquerque, there's, and I was, around like a bunch of gangs and stuff like that. Like people die and people, shoot guns and stuff like that. I think, that kind of gave me some experience. Whereas like, I don't know, I I've thought about this too. Like, it never really affected me, but I think it's just like, I kinda maybe just push it to the side and, and maybe with training and stuff like that, you just, you're in the moment you're doing what you need to do because of training. And, but you do. Yeah. Like, especially now I think when I'm a firefighter. Yeah. We, we joke about it more. Right. Like something happens and obviously not doing it there or whatever, but stuff happens in the, and then, you joke about it. You, you make fun of it, but yeah. I think it's just, I've never, I don't want to say I've never struggled with that, but like dealing with the stuff, but it's usually going to be some kind of joke or moving on that type of thing. 

 JP
 Yeah. 

 Josh
 Yeah. I thought I was a pretty bad-ass dude. Right. This and that. I was firefighter and anybody who would say like, Hey, I'm struggling, depression, anxiety, PTSD, whatever. I'd be like, then that's weakness, right. Until one night my wife woke me up in the middle of the night. She goes, what are you doing? I was performing surgery on her leg. 

 JP
 Right. 

 Josh
 Like I was having nightmares and I was trying to fix my wife. You're not, it's probably just playing with their toes. I don't know. Like, she's like, what are you doing? I, like, I was like, I have no clue or me around kids in pools. Like if there's a kid eating or near a pool, I'm on high alert. Like, I don't know how to turn that part of my brain off. And yeah. Going through my own struggles of anxiety and depression and all that stuff, like, that's why we have the show is, so guys could talk about the s**t, cause guys don't do that guys. Aren't typically good at this. We're, I promise we're going to get around to your fitness training and such. Like, I think that this is so vital to pull these golden nuggets of what you've learned and how you're applying it To us guys. 

 JP
 Yeah. I think, so everybody has some type of struggle. Right. This is something I've learned more from being coaching and stuff like that. It was just like, cause I always equated my struggles to growing up, getting beat, that type of stuff, like poor me, I got to do all these things and that type of stuff. And, and the more coaching I've done, the more I realized that everybody's got some s**t going on, ? And, and at this point in your life, that's a story it's not happening right now. Sometimes when you think about it feels like it. Yeah. Right. A lot of times, and this is something I've learned from coaching too, is that you write that s**t out and then you go through it and then it's like, now you take the story from like being all up in your face to out in a way. 

 JP
 It's it's, you can almost see it like as a story, as opposed to living in the moment. Right. Because yeah, everybody has some s**t going on and it's crazy because if we probably say the worst things to ourselves, then we say to anybody else totally. You know? Totally. And, and so until we correct the s**t that's going on in our heads, it's, it's very hard to keep moving in a positive direction and keep moving forward. And, and it took me a long time to do that. For the longest time, I think what pushed me and I was, and I think about this is like one is like the desire to be loved right. To that. I hated my stepfather and I wanted, I guess maybe yeah. To love and feel special. Right. Those are like, I think some of the big driving motives and when I look at it and I was like, and I go through it and stuff like that. 

 JP
 It's like, okay, who in their right mind wants to beat a nine and 10 year old kid. Right. Nobody. Yeah. Nobody. And, and when I look at it's just like he grew up in El Salvador. He was probably just doing the best that he knew how right. Cause he went through that or whatever it is. Like, it's not until maybe the last few years where I was just like, what? I actually had empathy for him, ? And I was just like, yeah. And I was like, 

 JP
 F**k, 

 JP
 What do I do now? Like, this is one of the biggest things that's been driving me, driving me. It's like, it was tough to be able to be like, look at back and be like, what? He did all those things, but he just didn't know how to handle himself or didn't know any better. Right. And same thing with like my mom and that type of stuff. It's just like, so I've realized that and through looking back at past experiences, riding them out, that type of stuff, and Yeah. Just acknowledging them for what they are, their stories. Right. When we think about them, we tend to let it, be this infinite loop in our heads. All of a sudden, the emotions start coming up and all this and all that. If you start breathing, It starts to push away. Right? 

 Josh
 Yeah. What I find really comforting is hearing, bad-ass Navy seal, CrossFit trainer, firefighter, and that guy going, what, I just really wanted to be loved and feel special right now. Obviously you can't say that showing up to budge, who. 

 Josh
 Are you? 

 Josh
 What do you want? 

 Josh
 I want to be loved and feel, 

 Josh
 All right, you got to show up with something to prove. And you know, It's comforting as a, not as bad ass dude. Right. On a scale of one to 10, I'm probably at three, let's be honest. Like, like that, if it feels cool hearing that, man, and I appreciate you sharing that. I hope all your seal buddies heal this and I'll call you peanut. I hope it sticks. Yeah. Yeah. That's cool. Hey, I got a question, you know, a girl growing up in, you know, around gangs and such like that, you know, like in the nineties and you know that the way they hold their guns aside, 

 JP
 When you're. 

 Josh
 Going through, your training with weapons where they like, where'd you grow up and you're like holding the gun sideways, trying to do a gang bang shoot. 

 JP
 Oh yeah. There was always that joke, right? Like, no, you got to hold it like this. And I'm like, no, but yeah. It's yeah. It's, it's, that I think the nineties, the glamour, the glamorized, the whole gang life, I think, and then in Albuquerque was like, oh yeah, well, we're going to prove ourselves, ? It's just, it's, there's a lot of stuff going on there and it's just like, and it's still, I mean, if you've watched cops, you're like, why is this always an Albuquerque? You know? 

 Josh
 Well, yeah. If that's where the filming goes, that's where they go, where the action is. Yeah. Man, I got so many cool things I want to ask you. When do you think you're growing? The mustache back is probably like the first, like most important question. 

 JP
 Well, I was after that wedding and I saw that guy's mustache. I was like, man, I'm growing it back. As soon as I get back home. Definitely in November. I mean, yeah, for sure. I haven't set any other time other than that, for sure. But yeah, 

 Josh
 We'll be waiting around for that to happen. 

 JP
 It comes in quick, 

 Josh
 As you're, as you're building this out, one of the things that you said is, now that you're in coaching, you've learned coaching other people, right. On fitness and mindset, fixing the s**t between the ears. Right. Like, cause that's, and you've worked primarily with dudes, but you mentioned something that was super cool that I want to lift you up for, encourage you about is you've gone from hatred, right? Like I hated my stepdad. He beat me or whatever. I don't, I don't know to empathy, like wow. That the story changed, the situation didn't change. It was always there. But you changed it by mindset. How in the world did you do that? What changed in you after you went from that hatred to the more of the empathy? 

 JP
 Yeah. I was actually being coached when I was talking about this. Yeah. This to basically wrote out any number of stories, like my worst stories that I had, and I would encourage anybody to do this. It take whatever is, the worst story in your past and write it out. Like, it's just an event that happened, right? Like this is what happened, you title it, you write it out and it's f*****g hard. Right. You write it out and emotions back and then you just, you read it out loud. It's like, okay, I'm going to read it. Probably some sobbing, probably a lot of emotions. Then, you read it to the slower and then you read it with like breath in between. Like this started getting into like some of the coaching methodology behind it. What breathing does is that it calms the system down. It takes all that emotion and it starts to pull it away from like being all up in our head and it starts to pull it out. 

 JP
 Right. The story hasn't changed, but the emotion behind it starts to start to come down . Right. It'll go up in the, and then it will come down and you start reading it and the more you read it's like the more, it's just a f*****g story. Right. Once you've done that, and it's hard to do this by yourself, but you can look at some of the words in the story and change some of the words around once. You've kind of taken the emotion behind it, out of it. 

 Josh
 Yeah. 

 JP
 You can totally flip the script basically, and, and see it for what it is, as opposed to what it means to you. And, and especially what it means to you today. Right? Like if it's something that's been in your mind for years and years, it's like so many people, like we all have stuff that we think about. Whether, it's something we f****d up or a girlfriend or, drugs, whatever it is. It's like all this s**t that can just kind of be driving you and just floating around in your head. Once you get it out, get away, it's like, alright, what? That's a story I can just keep moving on and I can change. I can change what that story means for me today. 

 Josh
 Yeah. 

 JP
 You know, 

 Josh
 Dude, that's, it's vital. Right. It's vital to be able to change the story, because we all have had trauma happened to us or bad s**t happened. Like, whatever people's stories are and you work with a lot of dudes, right? Yeah. Experiences. What happens if we don't change that story, if we don't learn how to heal or cope or move from hatred, what if we just stick in that, stay in that. 

 JP
 Yeah. I mean, worst case scenario, right. They take their own life, or they died from health issues, and many times when people come to me for coaching, it's for fitness and this and that, but there's this other side of it that a lot of it's driven by past experiences and stuff like that, and unable to cope with some things. How do they cope while they eat? They, they drink, they, do whatever it is. We can learn to deal with that, now we can start feeling better, making better decisions, that type of stuff, and start moving in the other direction as like, instead of moving towards death, you're now moving towards health and life and that type of stuff. 

 Josh
 Yeah. Yeah. That's good, man. What does the future look like for peanut? 

 JP
 Well, 

 JP
 Hopefully, actually I, I don't mind peanut as much. It's just funny when somebody calls me that I haven't known forever, ? So. 

 Josh
 Someone who you can definitely want my ass calling you that, right? 

 JP
 Yeah. So, so obviously firefighter and the future looks like for me is coaching continuing to coach growing that. Cause it's still pretty new, but growing my groups, growing the business, helping people, putting out more stuff out there that people can follow and learn from and, stuff like that. Just because I think growing up the way I did, I was like, my dad was gone. Didn't have anybody to be like, Hey, give you advice and this and that, ? A lot of my advice came from books and these other like coaches and speakers and stuff like that. If I can do like, and I learned a lot and it helped a lot too. If I can do that with other people that have other issues and struggles, I think that's awesome. You know? And, and it feels really good when you can help people. Well, even as something as silly as like, losing weight and stuff like that can dramatically change the way somebody feels about themselves, the way they show up in the world, the way they deal with like food and their emotions and stress and all that. 

 JP
 It's like, that's huge. Being able to participate and help people do that type of stuff is really cool. Firefighting is awesome because you're, once again, you're helping people and at some of their worst moments and, cause nobody calls 9 1 1 and this, well, I shouldn't say nobody calls 9 1 1, but like sometimes you're like you called 9 1 1 for this, but for the most part, it's like, it's pretty, it's not a good situation. And, and so you're there to help and be the person that's there to make things better, I guess, in a way. 

 Josh
 Yeah. I had two nicknames as a firefighter. One was the Jewish hammer. Right. The guns and hoses, the, the, we had a boxing event, guns verse hoses, the police versus. 

 JP
 Yeah. Yeah. We, we don't, they used to have something like that here, but they don't know. 

 Josh
 Yeah. Because you probably would hurt everybody, but I did it and they're like, Hey, one of our SWAT guys was battling cancer and they're like, we need someone to do a lightweight box. I'm like, oh, I'll do it. You know? They're like, have you ever boxed? Not really. And then they said, what's your name? I was like the Jewish hammer. Like that was my box, whooped my ass. He was a professional boxer. People it's my ass. And then. 

 JP
 My skinny guys, 

 Josh
 He was saying bagging dude, but I had another nickname cookies. I, I could say no to cookies, but once a cookie hit, I ate a bunch of Oreos last night. Once it hits my lips, dude, I could eat a whole row of Oreos. I'm at the fire station and how old grandmas will bring, cookies. I got cookies and I'm nailing this. My captain's like, whoa, whoa, slow down Joshua. I'm like, no cookie monster. Right? The one time we get a structure, fire structure, fire out, I'm in the fire. I, I, I start puking into my mass cookies everywhere. I have to dump my mask in the night. I went back in, but yeah, they said, Howard, those cookies, around through Josh, I was like, it's a cookies. Hey, God bless you. So yeah. So that's my nickname. Anyways, this shows it. Isn't about me. It's about you back to you, JP. 

 Josh
 I love cookies. So you're, you're you're coaching dudes. What to, what's a good place for guys who want to, fix some mindsets stuff, maybe fix their waistline, work with a guy who's going to challenge them, but also has empathy in massive history in helping people, improve and push what's a good place for guides connect with you and do a deal with you. 

 JP
 Yeah. So you can follow me on Instagram. It's JPB. So Juliet Popol Bravo dot coaching. That's on Instagram. Then, or they can just go to my website, which is higher level coaching dot C O. You can contact me through there or, see what I'm about, what I'm doing. That type of stuff, sign up private. I have a men's program starting on May 9th. I don't know when this airs or anything like that, but I do men's programs throughout the year. I also have some women's programs in there, but mainly men's programs or one-on-one coaching. 

 Josh
 Cool. Enter the code word cookies for, 

 JP
 Yeah. Cookies, backslash cookies. 

 Josh
 JP. What's a question I should have asked you in this interview that I completely screwed up and did not ask you. Oh, 

 JP
 Shoot. I don't know. You know what I mean? We could go into like nutrition and stuff like that, but like all of that's like secondary to, mindset and dealing with whatever's going on in your life. It's like, I feel like if I talked about any of that stuff, it's like, it would just water it down, because the reality is most people know what to do. It's it's dealing with the s**t in your head. That's the hardest for people and getting past some of that stuff to have more positive feelings so that you can have more energy and do the types of things that you want to do. Like that's what's important word. Yeah. 

 Josh
 JP, thanks for coming on, man. It was an absolute blast. I enjoy you. 

 JP
 Thank you. Yeah. This is great. 

 Josh
 Fellow dudes listening in as always reach out to our guests, man, follow them on their social handles and cool stuff instagram and connect with them and find a way to work with them. And if you need help, man. Oh man. I forgot to do this as always police, fire, military frontline workers. I stand and salute you. I want to honor you guys like thank you for your service. Thank you for the sacrifices you make and have made. I love you guys. Thank you for what you do, JP. I love you. I thank you for what you do. 

 JP
 Thank you for having me. Yeah, 

 Josh
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