Down and Dirty Dating Advice with Celeste Moore

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Josh Wilson
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Celeste Moore
Thank you. Thank you for having me.

Josh Wilson
Yeah, I'm looking at your website. It says the one thing missing from your dating game. What is that?

Celeste Moore
Yes. Usually it is the confidence to approach women, to be able to speak to them and just not knowing what to say, how to act. I basically teach men how to build that confidence through their image. We coach them on what's not comfortable for them and we get them ready for the dating game so that they're successful, whatever that looks like. It might not be a partner or a marriage. It might be just having multiple dates. We just get them ready so that they're comfortable.

Josh Wilson
Got it. From a women's perspective, so I've interviewed pickup artists guys, and they're like this how to increase your game. Right? It's a numbers game and you got to measure your metrics and helpful information. What I would love to hear from a female perspective is, alright, so we've heard it from the guys on how to pick up girls or how to date, right? What about from a woman's perspective? Why don't you give us an idea of what you do on a day to day basis and let's start talking to our dudes.

Celeste Moore
Okay, cool. I'm just going to start off with Joe Schmo. I don't know who it is, but he comes to me and he's like, look, I haven't got any dates. I keep swiping, right? Nobody's connecting who I want to connect with. We kind of sit down with them and we get really real. We talk about what his goals are and we basically break that down. Where I start with is we really start off with how he's presenting himself online, what is he wearing? What are his pictures saying? Don't hold up a dead fish. Women don't like it. I mean.

Josh Wilson
This is so funny, right? Because we push stuff and we're like, oh, but man, I'm going to put a bloody dead animal. Girls might not like that. Interesting.

Celeste Moore
I believe I have not met one woman who enjoys a dead animal on a profile pic yet. Just note that also yeah, we don't want bathroom pictures of a guy lifting up a wife beater and showing off his ABS, live, taking down his pants . We don't want anything like that. Just show us who you really are. Be authentic, have good lighting, but give us a smile. Give us a dog. Pick if that's what you're into or some kind of adventure. Maybe you went on with your friends if you travel or just about you. Keep your bio short and sweet. We don't want to hear any negative talk. That's such a turn off. So we just really go over these. Really I don't want to stay simple, but how are you projecting yourself? Women want to see that you care about yourself, that you're taking care of yourself in some shape or form, and that you really at some point when we start dating, we really want you to listen to us.

Celeste Moore
I really teach men how to look at it from a female perspective, because, look, I know dudes and bro as you get together, and you think, this is like, yeah, let's go do this, let's go do that, but we can see through it unless you're an F boy. I'm sorry, but they're a lot of those out there. We just kind of go over your goals. We go over your dating profile. We pick out I teach color psychology, what power colors are for you, how to use those when it comes to dating, how to use those when it comes to Internet, so on and so forth. And color is live. The first thing that we notice, forget about everything else. It already sends a message without you even knowing.

Josh Wilson
No problem.

Celeste Moore
It's pretty crazy.

Josh Wilson
All right, so let's talk about as an image consultant, and you're helping guys with their dating profiles and their parents. How are they appearance, how are they showing up to attract the right kind of person that they want? Right? That's your jade, right?

Celeste Moore
Exactly.

Josh Wilson
There's certain colors, the psychology of colors, that, as a guy and my brother in law, he's colorblind, right? So he would have no clue. For me, I would have no clue about this. What are some of the ideas on the color psychology that guys need to know about?

Celeste Moore
Everybody can wear any color on the color spectrum, there's just different shades that work best for you based on your eye color, your skin undertone, your hair color. Basically, without doing anything else, it just automatically brings attention into your eyes. When we're dating, you want to hear what the other person is saying, right? You don't want to be distracted. Color is just one thing to take away distraction or the opposite, being able to focus on your eyes. If you don't know your proper colors and what that means, it's kind of an in depth thing. You can just go with your eye color. It's great. Like, wear a shirt. You got blue eyes, green eyes, brown eyes, just wear some warm tones just to kind of set the mood where you're not like, okay, what do I wear? This is crazy. Red, just so red is the most powerful color.

Josh Wilson
Really?

Celeste Moore
Yeah. No, it can be seductive, but it also can be very overwhelming. If you're in a full piece red suit, it could be a little alarming for a first date. It could come off too strong. Blue. This is a great one. Flofr all you guys. It's the most trusting color.

Josh Wilson
Okay.

Celeste Moore
If you look at all the banks, they've got blue in this colors. Usually these are just a couple of little tidbits that they can take away and use what you will be authentic with who you are. If you're a little crazy, a little wild, it's okay to showcase that, but just keep it down of a notch just so that you guys can actually get to know each other.

Josh Wilson
All right? You mentioned this may not apply for Fboys, meaning live guys who are just going out and trying to hook up and put more notches on their belt. Exactly.

Celeste Moore
Fboys, I'm sure everybody knows when I grew up, it was called a player, so it's pretty much the same thing. Guys that just want to hook up with as many girls as they want, and they're really smooth, and they're really good at their talk, and they get to the emotion side of a woman before that, they know how to work the emotion side, and then they hook up. Hi.

Josh Wilson
Yeah. And then place. See you later. This is interesting. When you see that boy comes to you and they want to increase their dating game or get more notches on their belt, is that something that you help with or you're more focused on guys who want healthy relationships or whatever, what are your thoughts?

Celeste Moore
Yeah, I'm not into seeing clients for clients. It's just not my thing. I don't really think they would come to me anyway, just to be honest. I feel like they're like, I've got this. The dating game is easy for me. The people that come to me are either men that have been married for a long time, and they're like, whoa, how do I date live? What is this about? Or many a guy that's been married to his job surgeon, just for example, and one of my clients who has been in the hospital for 20 years. So they're just uncomfortable. They don't know how to talk. They get very awkward when it comes to the dating side of things.

Josh Wilson
Sure. I've been married 13 years, so I've been out of the air, quote, game for a long time. I've got to step up my game, even to be there for my wife and to date her and such. Let's talk to guys out there who are recently divorced.

Celeste Moore
Okay.

Josh Wilson
They're going, I need to get back in the game because I'm lonely, but I forgot what it was like. It's not like in high school or early college where you're going to all these frat parties, you're hanging out and you meet someone at the bar and you're like, oh, cool, hey, we could establish a relationship. Things change as we get older, right? For a guy who comes to listen recently divorced, I'd like to meet someone. I'm not out there just to go get notches on my belt. I truly want to meet some women and get to know them and maybe if it turns into a long term relationship, that's cool, but I need that. But I have no confidence. How do you start to help those guys?

Celeste Moore
I know this is first and foremost with someone that's been recently divorced. I really kind of coached them in the beginning and see kind of what went wrong with that and maybe so that we don't repeat anything in the next relationship. Yeah, so maybe obviously I don't want to say it's 50, but there are two people in the relationship and what happened? What kind of went wrong? And so were you just working nonstop? Were you emotionally unavailable? Were you not attracted and having sex with your wife? What were some of the issues? I don't get too personal unless they really want to, but I want to see where we need to go forward because if I just get his wardrobe looking great, right, get his new threads live, get them all live confident and tell him where to go and what to do. If he's going to repeat the same things that happened to this last marriage, it didn't go well, then I'm doing him into service.

Celeste Moore
On that note, that's a little side note. Say he is ready. He's kind of worked on some of those things that he needs to work on. I really peter to work with Matchmakers. If he wants to do the online dating, then we set up that profile for him, depending on his goals. We write the bio, get the right pictures for him. Honestly, with online dating, the one thing that really bothers me or what has transpired is the lack of in real life, when people actually meet, they're not meeting enough. This is another reason why people are awkward, another reason why people are coming to me, because they feel like, well, I'm just swiping, right? But there's no other interaction. Maybe there's a few messages that they fall off. So how do I meet that person? I really try to figure out what their lifestyle is, where they live, kind of friends, maybe hobbies or maybe things that they want to learn to do.

Celeste Moore
We try to get them in environments where they're meeting a lot of people because it is somewhat of a numbers game, right?

Josh Wilson
Yeah.

Celeste Moore
It is like getting them around the right. People that they want to meet, too. That's really big.

Josh Wilson
Yeah.

Celeste Moore
Maybe they don't know what that is, so we help them figure it out.

Josh Wilson
I mean, it's true. Right? Let's just say you've been married. I know a guy who's married for 30 years, and then he misbehave, and they wound up divorced. He has to rediscover what do I want? He has to rediscover who he is. Right. A part of that is a challenge, and I think a lot of times, if you don't practice something, if you're not constantly doing it, your skills will drop. It's proven. Even being able to talk to someone or approach someone or have a conversation, I think it's super helpful because a lot of guys will never have a conversation with a female right. Live who's not their wife or whatever, but now divorced, they're like, I forgot how to do it, blah, blah. Right. You create the app, but you're like, we really need to focus on in person stuff. Do you have conversations with guys to kind of help them?

Celeste Moore
I do, yes. Well, I do Dtkcoaching with them, and I get them very comfortable with talking to another female, but yes, I also do mock dates with them.

Josh Wilson
Oh, cool.

Celeste Moore
Yeah. A mock date is it depends on the package, whether we do this once or twice, but usually in the beginning, we always do this, and I kind of see where they're at in their dating game. They plan everything just like they were planning a normal date, and I show up, and we do everything that he would do on a date, whether it's strengthened or some kind of adventure. I kind of evaluate him and see where maybe he's depending on his goals, where things he's falling short on, where he could use some help. I'm kind of a wingwoman in that sense, but I don't actually go out with them when they're trying to pick up girls, so it's different situation.

Josh Wilson
Yeah.

Celeste Moore
I sit back, and it's live. Maybe this is something we just really get real and say, XYZ, this is what we need to do. If they want to do another one at the end after we've done the Dtkcoaching and we've gotten them all set, we could do that as well.

Josh Wilson
I think that would be super helpful for a guy to practice. But also zoom web conference. Right. For a guy who's been married to his job, every time he goes out, people see him alone or with buddies, but live going out, seeing him with an attractive lady and having conversations with people. I'm sure other women are going, who's. That right. Women pay attention to other women. Am I right?

Celeste Moore
Yes.

Josh Wilson
I'm making assumptions. I'm not a fan.

Celeste Moore
No, they do. They really do. They kind of like, what's going on?

Josh Wilson
All right, so this guy will call him frank. I don't think I know any Franks who are divorced directly. Frank, you go on a mock date with him, he plants it out, and then you're taking notes, right, like, in your head. You provide constructive criticism at the end, some feedback, good and bad. What are some good things that you see on that first initial mock date? What are some things where you're like, you should probably have done this? What are some things that typically come up?

Celeste Moore
Let's see. I had a gentleman who ate really fast. Live. Just went through the solutions, didn't stop to talk. It was almost like a trough. And just eating and eating slowed out. You're here to eat, obviously, but you're here to get to know somebody. I guess that's what he did with his wife. All they did, if they went out, it was just shove your mouth full of food and then leave.

Josh Wilson
Wow.

Celeste Moore
So getting them out of some of those old habits. Another thing I really always teach these guys is like, chivalry. I really don't care how much money you make. If she makes more, if she's more successful, it doesn't mean you shouldn't be a gentleman. Stand up if she needs to leave to go to the restroom, open the door for her, pull the chair out. If the waiter doesn't do that, do all these things and then really listen. I had guys, like I said, who don't listen or they talk too much. It should be 20% talking and 80% listening. And trust me, she will notice.

Josh Wilson
That is hard, especially if you're nervous. Yes, I'm a nervous laugh. When I get nervous, I'll talk too much or I laugh, and then I start saying dumb jokes, and I'm like, shut up, Josh. I know that's how a lot of guys are out there. What are some things that we can do to actively listen, to practice being a good listener? I think that the ratio is good because we're doers, so we're like, okay, give us a rule. 20. Done. How do we do that?

Celeste Moore
Ask interesting questions. That way you're still talking and you're still engaging, but you're not feeling that awkward pause if you ask her. What are you passionate about right now? Live. Who are some of the biggest people in your life that made an impression on you? I mean, just like, kind of more deeper questions. I don't mean like, look, I don't want you talking about baggage exes. If you have children, it's great, but don't talk about them. You're just getting to know if this person vibes, if you guys match in any shape or form. Asking some of these questions, what do you do? Ask something more exciting, and she talks about it, right? And you're listening. So this is like, great. This is just like a great way.

Josh Wilson
It's funny you said, don't talk about baggage, don't talk about kids. They kind of go like, hand in hand, why not? Why Frank? You're going out to dinner, and he goes, yeah, I got divorced and I got my kids. What's going through your mind when Frank's talking like that?

Celeste Moore
So for me, that is immediate. Red flags is negativity, and that is a turn off. If I want to see you this 4th, 5th date or whatever, obviously I'm going to get to know more about you, right? I'm interested. Dating in the beginning should be fun, and I think so many people put expectations on, does he like me? He going to like me or is she going to like me? It's like, just go enjoy your dinner or your adventure and have a good time, and take the stress off, the expectations off. When people come in more light hearted and like, this is just a fun time, and I don't mean a fun time like, let's go home after this and let's have sex, but meaning, take off that heavy burden of whether or not someone's going to be into you.

Josh Wilson
Yeah.

Celeste Moore
And it's okay if they're not. There's no chemistry. Right. It doesn't mean that it was a total flop or a waste of time. Yeah. You can still have a good time, still have a connection with somebody.

Josh Wilson
Right. I think connection is super cool, especially if you're getting back in the game. I don't want to just call it the game, but live you're meeting back into a relationship where you're trying to meet people. I think a lot of guys go into this with the end of mine, are we going to live each other? Are we going to get married? Are we going to go have sex? All these freaking questions. They're having that first date, a lot of guys want to skip around the bases real quick and figure out, how do I get her to like me? So we could go whatever. Right?

Celeste Moore
Right.

Josh Wilson
How do you coach guys onto maybe releasing some of those expectations and enjoying that actual moment?

Celeste Moore
Well, one of the biggest suggestions, I say before first date is to m********* it.

Josh Wilson
That's a good tip.

Celeste Moore
Yeah.

Josh Wilson
A lot of guys might fall asleep after that.

Celeste Moore
Oh, I hope not. Relaxes you just a little bit.

Josh Wilson
Awesome. All right, so tip number one. Hey, guys, when you go out, you might need to clean out the pipes for . Why? So Celeste.

Celeste Moore
Okay, because usually if you're meeting someone, there's some attraction in some shape or form, whether you saw her picture or you've spoken to her. I think it also just takes away all your thinking about the sex. Maybe you still are, but at least you're hearing more of what she's saying. If you're a little bit less.

Josh Wilson
Of the waist belt. If the blood is up in the brain, you're going to listen. Better be clear about that. We understand. Got it. Now when you talk that way to guys, right, I'm sure that there's guys who come to you that are super straight place. They got maybe even pocket protectors and glasses or whatever, and they're going, and I want to go on some dates. And you go, okay, cool. Before you got on Date Master Bait Live, how do you guys respond to that when you talk like that, straight and bluntly Live, I think that's great. Guys need to hear stuff like this. How did they respond?

Celeste Moore
I think I just attract that type of client. I lived in New York for ten years. I feel very comfortable speaking to Men. I've had Men clients for the last 15 years, and I don't know, I deal and speak and relate to them easier, so I think they're usually okay with it. I mean, maybe they might be a little shocked at first, but then once they get to know me, they're like, okay, this is cool. She's being straight shooter, and she gave me permission.

Josh Wilson
All right, so let's go back to the mock date, Frank. Before the date, you're like, hey, Frank, why don't you go take a few minutes and go do some self care? We call it a healthy world right now. He picks you up, opens the door, and you're like, okay, we want you to be chivalrous. This is date number two after some coach, and he opens the door. Let's not talk about baggage. Let's not bring any negativity. Let's reduce expectations on outcomes, and let's enjoy what are some other things. Like, we're on date number two now. Okay, what does Frank need to be focusing on? Kind of date number two in that second date where maybe it went well, maybe just got blind lucky, got lucky the first time in terms of date two is happening, what does date two look like?

Celeste Moore
Just let me back up 1 second on that. I think the first date should usually be something adventurous. Don't do traditional. Go do something fun. Go kayak or hike. I don't know, do some kind of physical activity usually, or choose something that maybe you wanted to do that you haven't tried because it takes you also out of that weird comfort zone. I usually like two and three to be a dinner date. Okay, so date one went well. You have good connect something enough that you want to go on a second date. I would just make sure what questions did you ask on the first date? Leave some different questions for the second date. Getting to know this is where finding the right partner, if you have similar values and life goals, you're good to match. It does not mean you have to have the same hobbies, the same interests, or the same friends.

Celeste Moore
When you have basic values and goals that are similar, then everything else will work itself out. Meeting to know those persons, getting to know her on whether or not children were a factor in that previous relationship, or maybe she wants kids, maybe she's younger, maybe he's older. If there was goals, if she's like, I'm just starting out and he's like, I'm retiring, not a good match. Even if he's like, I want to date someone 20 years younger. Because she thought, yeah, it's not going to work out at the end. If it does, it's so rare. I mean, I'm not saying that it's not possible.

Josh Wilson
Yeah, aligned values and aligned goals, it might mean that you have different friends, circles or Chris PR that. But we have similar goals.

Celeste Moore
Exactly.

Josh Wilson
Similar values. So date number one. Hey, guys, take care of yourself prior to this. Reduce the expectation of rounding the bases. That way you both are focusing on the moment, not the sheets. Do something adventurous. The first date, I'm taking notes for Frank, right? Second and third dinner dates. Right? That's when you start to go deeper. Let me ask this question. This is a softball pitch because I think I know the answer, but I want to. Guys who are like, all right, I researched the questions to ask her. What are you excited about? What are you passionate about? Don't ask negative stuff. Right? But I don't have a good memory. Should I write this crap down on my phone and look at my phone and ask her these questions? Where does the phone play? What if guys need maybe of inspiration during the thing because they're stuck?

Celeste Moore
What are your thoughts? It's a great question, actually.

Josh Wilson
Thank you.

Celeste Moore
The phone should not be on the table or in your hand. Go to the restroom if you need to write something down on your phone really quick. Live. Excuse me, I'll be right back. If you need to look up something and some of my packages, I offer. You can come to the bathroom and text me.

Josh Wilson
Oh, cool. No signs.

Celeste Moore
I need help. Yeah. She asked me this. What do I say? Because it's going so well. I know that we all have live, some of us. I have a child. It's like, okay, just take that moment and just excuse yourself. It just makes things look like you really like or you're really paying attention. I mean, we all know we get on the phone so fast and so easy these days and just take that 30 minutes, whatever it is, and just be off your phone.

Josh Wilson
Yeah, it's an addiction. I tell you, if you're with someone and they're on their phone, you're just like, they're not interested in me.

Celeste Moore
Yeah, it's exactly what it says.

Josh Wilson
Distracted, in something else. And yes, I have three kids, right? So I want to be. There for them. I could also put the phone under my leg and say, if you need me, call me.

Celeste Moore
Right?

Josh Wilson
Okay, cool. Second or third date or whatever the rhythm is in the conversation, the guy's like, how do I know when to go in for a kiss? I want to go to first place.

Celeste Moore
Very good question.

Josh Wilson
Thank you.

Celeste Moore
Obviously I recommend probably not in the restaurant. Going for it.

Josh Wilson
Flush your teeth. Maybe prior to it too, right?

Celeste Moore
Oh, my God. Please. Prior to this state, shower, shave, or trim your beard, because if you really want to go in for a kiss, be prepared. Make sure that you're pressure I don't have to say this, but it's crazy. What? You didn't put clean clothes on. You know what's going on. So, yes, I recommend kissing pretty early.

Josh Wilson
Really?

Celeste Moore
I do. You don't have to on the first date. That could be a little awkward. If it's there, if you're both meeting it, I would definitely try it out because long story, a long time ago, I was flirting with a guy for months and months. We both were attracted to each other. I would say, like, three months later. We weren't really in a situation. We were always seeing each other, but we kissed, and I was like, there's nothing there. She's like, yeah, me neither. I was like, okay, solves that problem.

Josh Wilson
Solves that problem.

Celeste Moore
Yeah. I guess my whole thing is I think it's okay. The way that when to go in for the kiss is she really looking in your eyes? She laughing at your jokes or smiling? Is she flipping her hair? Which is another sign in a flirtatious.

Josh Wilson
Okay.

Celeste Moore
If her body language is directly facing you, her leg is not crossed towards the door. That means she wants to run. If your foot is body language. Body language. This is something I teach as well. Yes. If you're saying yes and your body is literally closed off, it's body language. You really have to look at her body language. I'm not saying if she says no, that means yes. Guys, if she's maybe a little embarrassed, maybe she's afraid to hurt your feelings. Just pay attention to her body language.

Josh Wilson
Yeah. I think that first step is so nerve wracking. The guy's excited, and, he was already nervous about asking flofr a date, and they went on a date, and you're like, I want to encourage you to kiss. Earlier on, they're like, holy moly. The anxiety. I could just hear Frank with the things going through his head is like, what if she rejects me? Then it's going to be weird. Like, how do I know? Am I supposed to ask her, hey, do you mind if I kiss you tonight? How do you approach that?

Celeste Moore
Yes, I always recommend. Always good to ask. Do you mind if I give you a kiss? I would like to kiss you. Is that okay?

Josh Wilson
Yeah.

Celeste Moore
There's very subtle ways without being really awkward. If you're in that moment, and if you feel like, okay, you're walking her to her car or whatever the situation is, and she's looking at you, she's waiting, she's stalling and you could feel there's that chemistry. Maybe he feels when she does it, but that's a good to ask her. It's always like a true sign to say okay.

Josh Wilson
If she says no, how do you respond? Hey, do you mind if I go in for a kiss? And she's like, no.

Celeste Moore
Hopefully she has a reason behind it. Either I'm not feeling this. It was great having a wonderful day with you, but I'm just not looking for anything further, or she says, I'm just not ready yet. You know, it could be.

Josh Wilson
Frank goes in for a kiss, she says no. How should he respond? Because Frank is going to feel defensive right off the bat. He's going to be embarrassed. That's a shock. That's a rejection. How does Frank overcome that? Or how does he respond? Yeah, that's a tough one, right?

Celeste Moore
That's a tough one, because I get it. Nobody wants to be rejected. Nobody wants to feel that they're not attractive or desirable. Right. I teach them not to take it so personally because who knows what's going on with that person? Like I said, it could not be the attraction there that she was looking for. I'm just hoping there's of an explanation. It's not like if she doesn't give it to you, I wouldn't say, well, why? Because that's just like don't put let it go to just let it go.

Josh Wilson
Maybe date number three. Right?

Celeste Moore
Maybe date number three. If not, then, I feel like if date number three, there isn't some type of kiss, some type of physical contact, then I think you reevaluate.

Josh Wilson
Frank's on date number one or two, is it okay for Frank to be on date number two or one with someone else as well?

Celeste Moore
Oh, okay. That's a good one. Do you mean like, actively dating? Yes.

Josh Wilson
He's trying to meet people in your coaching? He just got divorced. He's like, I don't know if I'm ready for a long term commitment, but I do want to meet some people live.

Celeste Moore
What's kind of it's totally fine. Okay. You haven't committed to anybody at this point. It's too early.

Josh Wilson
Yeah.

Celeste Moore
If the two people get together and they said, okay, we really like each other, let's date each other for a while. Let's take our profiles down. I've had lots of guys who don't do that, and they're still online and they're still swiping, and you can see that they're on. And so that's live. Not a good sign, but yes, go date many people. Let them know, I'm just getting out here. If you truly find that person right away, then you guys decide. Make that decision.

Josh Wilson
Yeah. I like what you're sharing about Live. Just ask, hey, would it be okay if I catch you? Right? She says no, you go, okay, let me know if you ever are right. Want to go on another date. Now I know that this happens. So they say goodnight. Zoom. Date number two happens. The first thing he's going to do is want to text, right? He's going to text and he doesn't get a respond right off the bat because she's talking with her friends for 2 hours after the date to get feedback and all that stuff. What's the texting regiment versus calling versus that kind of stuff. The communication after the date.

Celeste Moore
Communication after a date should be spoken about before you leave that date. I'm going to text you in a couple of days. I think at the end of the day kind of evaluate where things are and if you're choosing to go on a third date then kind of make the plans before you leave. Or just say yeah if you're like. I'll just text you when I'm available. That's just watery. Or I'm available. Maybe next weekend I'll give you a text. I feel that if you tell them what you're going to do and do it, then that's also a good sign, right? That you're responsible. That you really want to see me again. That I can believe what you say. If you're blowing up her phone a lot guys don't do it a red flag. Also don't say I'm going to text you in three days.

Celeste Moore
I don't know, just using Live Wednesday and then you hit her up on Saturday. She's going to be like, you missed the window, dude.

Josh Wilson
Yeah.

Celeste Moore
Just be honest.

Josh Wilson
It shows your intent and it shows that you're going to follow through. That they could depend on you. Right?

Celeste Moore
Exactly.

Josh Wilson
What are some major turn offs? So they've gone on date number one. Date number two. What are some major turn offs for women?

Celeste Moore
Let's see.

Josh Wilson
Major trigger list.

Celeste Moore
Yeah, definitely. Like being ghosted or not follow through with the date or the text. Let's see. I would say a huge one is being rude to your server or anybody that's, that like it's just ugly, like entitlement. Just attitude, I guess. Let's see, what's another turn off? I would say Live bad hygiene. I know that maybe it's not as important. I think it's not as important. I don't know why, but women are live all over that. I'm not saying you have to be a pretty boy or you have to have a certain look, but hygiene is huge. Groom yourself, take care, show that you care about yourself. I think that's a huge one. It shows that you'll care about her. It shows that you'll care about your relationship. Also Live negativity is just really ugly. I don't care what it is about. We all have things that happen in our live.

Celeste Moore
It's really how we deal with it moving forward. Right.

Josh Wilson
This isn't a therapy session, by the way, boys. I know when you're on a date. Yes, exactly. Fall into because they're good listeners. Don't fall into a therapy session. That's for your therapist later on.

Celeste Moore
That's a great one. I like that.

Josh Wilson
I've been out of the game for a long time now. I got to remember how to date my wife and I've got two daughters and I got a son. I got to teach my son how to be a gentleman. Some learning this stuff. Let me ask this question. Alright. I know that this is important for men and we have an uncensored show. Yes. All right. We went for a kiss. She said yes. How do we know when it's appropriate to even explore other physical, connect other stuff, maybe even come back to the place, the house or whatever? How do you know that it's okay to do more?

Celeste Moore
Okay, good question. I believe that. Where does that kiss go? Is it super hot and passionate? I don't know. I believe we're all adults at this age. The people that I really help are usually around 38 to 60. It's pretty broad range. We've all kind of been through that young phase of our life, right? Oh, do I wait, what's this whole game? He going to live me if I give it up too soon? That's not the picture here. If you guys want to have sex, go have sex. You're an adult. Just have protected sex. Be responsible. I think it's kind of important if you're both in that live wanting to explore each other's bodies and see what else that looks like for them. You know, I think it's healthy. I'm not saying you have to do it right away, but it also doesn't like there shouldn't be any judgments.

Josh Wilson
Yeah. How do you approach having those conversations? Right. So see where the kiss goes. Right. When it comes to I'd like to advance this on and see if there's anything else there. That's for Frank, man. That's a major sticking point. He's like, I'd like to does she? Am I going to get rejected and can I satisfy her? Can I actually make her happy? Give us some from the women's perspective on healthy sex in the dating relationship. What does that look like and what is unhealthy physical contact in a dating relationship?

Celeste Moore
Healthy sex is really want to focus on whatever she wants. I know that sounds really biased, but if that happens, if she is ready, if she wants to do this, try it out and see what it looks like for you, she's going to be more comfortable. Right. Guys, get hard on is pretty easy. Women might take longer to get aroused and that's okay. That's just how it is. So foreplay is really important. Foreplay, it's like the building blocks to having really great stuff and learning, especially since it's new, you're both learning kind of what each other likes and exploring that. And that's okay. I would just make sure and I can talk about it because if you're just like, let me do this, maybe she'll live this well. Can't you just ask her?

Josh Wilson
Yeah.

Celeste Moore
Or express your desires or fantasies, if that's another thing.

Josh Wilson
What if the guys fantasies or desires might be a little skewed towards the world of p***? Right. I'd live to hear your thoughts on p***, too. Team chat. If the guy's fantasy is in there, date number two and he's talking about, yeah, I really like to bring in some animals and some monkeys, maybe have a sixsome or something like that. Yeah, you might want tone it down a little, Frank. What's healthy for dating until you get to the 50 states? Great. Maybe that's date number six. Right? Before you start talking about that, what are your thoughts?

Celeste Moore
Yeah, I think it's really important to know people's desires in the sex game sex world because you could be live the greatest fit and you have completely different viewpoints on that. P*** is healthy to a point. I believe that you can bring that in to spice things up. I don't know how much you need that in the beginning, but if she's into it and you're into it, go for it. I like to go to strip clubs. I think that's healthy as well. Just like a little tease, I feel like. I don't know if that happens right away, too. If you're really not into somebody right. If that person is not enticing you in some way because you haven't really learned each other, I think that comes later. Could you do it early on?

Josh Wilson
Sure, but I this they could ask you, though. They're like, hey, this is the situation. What are your thoughts? Because you have a female perspective, which is going to be 100 times closer than ours. Okay. So talk about it. Right? If it's just like, hey, we're getting to that point where we're heading back to the house, we're in an Uber or something like that, and we're like, is that the point to talk about live? Hey, what would be good for you?

Celeste Moore
Yeah. If you're going home to the same house, that's definitely okay. I would make sure, though, nowadays we're on the same page, right. We're not just friends owning and he thinks we're going to go watch a movie, and he's like, no, we're getting it on.

Josh Wilson
Right? Yeah. Make sure aligned motivation, right?

Celeste Moore
Yeah.

Josh Wilson
Do you approach that the same way? Do you recommend Frank approaches that the same way as the kiss. It's like, hey, just want to make sure that we're on the same page here. Are you okay with getting physical tonight? Or something like that. Are those good questions to ask?

Celeste Moore
They're great questions because it gives him permission to proceed. It lets her know where he's at. If she's like, oh no, we're just live watching Tap Mobile tonight. And she'll be honest. She'll say what she needs to say so he's live. Alright, this is not what I expected. I just feel like people don't use their voice enough, so I just really want to put that out there. You're having a great make out session and you think the next is like, I'm going back to the house and we're going to have sex, we're going to do whatever, just make sure it's like, yeah, we're doing this right?

Josh Wilson
Yeah.

Celeste Moore
Does this work for you? It's working for me, yeah.

Josh Wilson
I like the communication that you teach. Guys need coaching in that's not something that I believe that we're naturally gifted towards. I think that's something that we need to grow in and we need to be coached and guided in. I like the fact that you're doing this for dudes. Thank you. Okay. Yeah. Got. I some more questions about being in the world. How do when there's mutual chemistry? Because I tell you, this is from a guy's perspective and I might be wrong.

Celeste Moore
Okay.

Josh Wilson
I want to be able to say I might be wrong in this from a guy's perspective. If a girl wants sex, if a girl wants a relationship, if a girl wants something, she could just wave her hand on the road. And sex comes easier for women. When a guy has to he feels that he might have to strive for it, fight for it. It's a numbers thing. I've got to work for it. I've got to hold doors, pick up things, buy dial, go through this whole process. What are your thoughts?

Celeste Moore
Well, if you go back a long time ago when Courtney was the thing you told me earlier, men want to work for something. They want to feel that they're valued in that sense. I think this has really, obviously changed. I still think there is about the I know it's a game, but there is something about the chase, if you will, about men doing things to make her happy. She's responding, she's getting warmer and warmer. You actually do have that chemistry and it happens and you do have the sex and it's so much more enjoyable, right. It doesn't have to be a long time, but there is of a process there. Guys are like, I got to work for it, I can't just get it, and she can. That's not with you either. It's depending on what your goals are. If you want a relationship, if you're looking to get married or not.

Celeste Moore
Even just a partner, just having someone to be in your life together and share things, then this is the wage.

Josh Wilson
It needs to be super awesome on your website. Select more.com and we'll give guys your contact information. If they're like, hey, I need help, I need image consultant, I need to know how to show up on these dating apps, how to have a conversation, maybe even go on a mock date. Like, I need this help, right? We'll give guys all your contact info, but it says the one date wonder. The guy, man, maybe he's good looking guy, shaves. He's really good at getting date number one. Never gets date number two. What are some of the indications or what are some things that he might need to August? Why is he not getting date number two?

Celeste Moore
He's either too eager, he moves way too fast, trying to be too smooth surface, or he is sending up red flags about, like I said, baggage negativity. He doesn't know what to talk about. He's talking about, well, I just broke up with this girl, and so it's like that's happening. Maybe he's going on dates with people that aren't aligned with them. He is still swiping with his old values, right? Date number two is happening for multiple reasons. It could be he's not listening, it could be some reason. We really kind of go over those dates, like, what is happening? What are you saying? How are you presenting yourself? It's really kind of getting into that and then being like, okay, well, this is what you want, but this is what you're doing. That's not an alignment.

Josh Wilson
You've seen the movie Hitch, and I think the PR group that you're working with says, like, you kind of look at her as a female Hitch, right? The jobs help to connect people and teach them how to do this world of dating. In the movie Hitch falls in love, right? In your situation, you go on these mock dates. I'm going to ask two questions here. Another one popped up. When you're going on these mock dates, have you ever fallen in love and you're like, well, actually, I have feelings for this person. Two, do you have a significant other who is like, you're going on these dates and he's like, your job is ridiculous, right?

Celeste Moore
I have dated I had a significant other while doing this. They were cool with it. It's my job. I think you have to have just the right person, right? The understanding, knowing that this is just, I'm here to help. I'm not here to do anything else. Sorry. But the first question was so yes.

Josh Wilson
You have to date the right person to know that. This is my career, right? Guys date for sure, because if they're jealous, they're going to show up and you'll be in the middle of a date. Question number two. Now you're like, okay, I'm going to teach you how to date and you're like, wow, I'm kind of into this dude.

Celeste Moore
Right, okay. No, that has never happened. I like maybe some qualities about them, but I don't go in. I don't see them like that. It's very professional. A lot of my clients don't even want to be live on social media. Like, before and after. They're very quiet about being discreet. Live. I didn't go see an image consultant or dating coach. I'm just really great at this.

Josh Wilson
True. Yeah. Have any guys do you go on the mock date? Have any guys ever tried too much and you're like, whoa, whoa. This is this business here?

Celeste Moore
Yes, that has happened as well.

Josh Wilson
Frank, this is her job, buddy. Come on, man.

Celeste Moore
That doesn't mean going for a kiss. No, not on this date.

Josh Wilson
You have to ask, and Celeste is going to probably say no.

Celeste Moore
Exactly.

Josh Wilson
Got it. For some things that I was taking notes, some major turn offs for women, talking negative, being rude to people, not being a gentleman, not having good hygiene, massive one, right. Colors and things about how your appearance looks, shave, take care of yourself. These things show. Were there any major ones that I missed out on? The major turn offs for women, I.

Celeste Moore
Would just say to list and more. That's a really big one. I know that guys get nervous, like you said, but she's probably like, what? I don't care. Live, she's just going to be off and think about live, when is it going to shut up? It's not going to go past that. So, yeah, I know it's rude. I know, for her to say that, but live, this is just you get live one chance to make a first good impression.

Josh Wilson
Yeah.

Celeste Moore
Unfortunately, it is what it is, so make it a good one. And no pressure there. Just have fun.

Josh Wilson
Have fun because you already took care of yourself before the date. Hey, guys, you're already set for the day at least, right? All right, so you're on a date, and you're coaching guys, and you're helping them build their confidence. They go on a mock date. Now they feel more confident. Maybe I'm a prize too, because I think a lot of times guys look at female as they are the prize, which means that I got to lower my expectations. I got to turn off my desires and wants, and I've got to make the self sacrifices because there's a lot of guys who want that. I got to do you ever find out where you actually have to say, hey, dude, you're actually a good catch yourself?

Celeste Moore
Yes. I remember I had a client that would not in the beginning, would not look at himself in the mirror. When we would go live shopping for his outfit, he would just like, whatever you think, and he wouldn't even make eye contact with himself in the mirror. Six months later, he actually looked at himself, and I was like, see live. Yeah. It's really about knowing your worth, knowing you have something to offer this woman as well. Yes. Are these the things that they want? Yes. But you're also adding to her life. Believe me, I know so many successful women that are longing for these gentlemen. They're longing for these guys, and they're out there. Just bring your game and know your worth.

Josh Wilson
Yes. This is for Frank out there, right?

Celeste Moore
Right.

Josh Wilson
Let me speak to Frank for a second. This was not too long ago I had a coach tell me to look in the mirror and tell me that I'm proud of myself. I was like, that's so weird. I was taking a shower, and I looked in the mirror, and I said, Josh, I'm proud of you. Love you, dude, your work. And I was talking to myself. I started to tear up. A lot of times, guys, we don't get the attitudes, and I'm proud of you, but if you could be proud of yourself, look at yourself in the mirror and be live. Yeah, I'm losing some weight. I'm clean cut. I'm increasing my threads. I want to encourage you guys to do that and look at yourself and find something that you're proud of, and let's build on that. Then, as always, if you need help from our guests, reach out to them and say, I need help building my confidence.

Josh Wilson
I need help dating and showing up and building relationships because I'm nervous. To be honest. I'm nervous. I'm terrified of being rejected. Maybe you rejected your whole marriage or whatever, and that's a tough point for you. Talk to someone like Celeste about that. Celeste, during this interview, there's probably questions other than where can people connect with you? Because we'll do that at the end. There's probably a question about dating because I don't know, but I probably should have asked you, what question do you wish I would have asked you?

Celeste Moore
You asked me some good questions, Josh. That's a tough one.

Josh Wilson
Okay.

Celeste Moore
I think you did a really great job. Honestly, you're probably the best interviewer yet. Good job, Josh.

Josh Wilson
Thank you. I appreciate that. I accept and receive. That is so cool. This is my mission and purpose is to help connect people and to give people a platform to share their thoughts. So, man, I'm really honored. Thank you for saying that. Now, Celeste, where could I go to connect with you? Maybe take you on a mock date or get some advice from you and talk about some stuff that they're challenging, that they are challenged with?

Celeste Moore
I would love to connect with anybody. You can shoot me. You can find me on Instagram, select more image, and you can shoot me a DM. We can just have a little chat. You can book a call just to see if we're a good fit for if you want to move further. There's a link on there, or you can find me@celestmore.com my website. And I also have a podcast. It's called the down and Dirty Podcast.

Josh Wilson
Awesome. What about.

Celeste Moore
Basically it's also uncensored. It's talking about anything that relates to dating, bad dates, sex, anything that relationship image, just stuff that maybe people are uncomfortable in a session talking about, maybe they want to hear. We have all sorts of guests on there, and we talk about all sorts of things related to relationships and dating.

Josh Wilson
Super cool. And that's down and dirty. They can find that on Apple and Google and all those places.

Celeste Moore
Down and dirty podcast. More on Apple. Spotify, stitcher. Google. So there's just some great tools. Hopefully they can take something from that.

Josh Wilson
Awesome. What is that? All right, so I lied. I thought were going to wrap it up. We started talking podcast. I got a few more questions.

Celeste Moore
Yeah, go for it.

Josh Wilson
Okay, so on your podcast, what has been one of the most memorable experiences live? Having your podcast show and talking to people, if you look back and you're like, that was super cool.

Celeste Moore
Oh, gosh. I'm a little bit new to this. I've had maybe a handful of guests, and then I talk about things that people want to learn about. I have a future sex couple coming on, so I want to really kind of see their viewpoint on what that looks live. I've had a therapist on Taylor on like, a girl that creates suits and all sorts of we talk about p**** size. I had a podcast on Foreplay on what women like. It's just I love learning from different people and this perspective. And, yeah, everyone is fun and fascinating.

Josh Wilson
Awesome. The couple was it? Let me see. I'm pulling them up.

Celeste Moore
They're not on there yet. Oh, gosh. This is probably in a couple of weeks, we'll be on there.

Josh Wilson
Is it Remy and Kevin? Yes, I know them. This is a wonderful they're a great interview. You're going to have so much fun. Oh, my josh, because she is so honest. They have really cool accents. She's so honest. You're going to have tell them, Josh. From unsensitive advice. Flofr men said, hey, ian Hill. Super cool. I love podcasting. So, guys, if you want to hear behind the scenes stuff, what women are thinking, from p**** size to foreplay to couples who are coaches and such like that, head on over to the down and Dirty Podcast with Celeste Moore. Have a listen, give her an amazing review, and share it with your friends. Guys, if you ever need help, reach out to our guests and ask for it. If you have advice that you'd like to share on Uncensored Advice for Men, head on over to our website, Uncensored Advice for Men.com.

Josh Wilson
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