June 30, 2022

A Dark Sense of Humor with Kennedy Ross


 Kennedy is a serial entrepreneur and creative, on the never-ending quest to live off of the darkness that emanates from his brain. He is the founder/co-founder of an indie film production company, an internet radio/public access TV show, a provocative author, article writer, installation "artist, and the creator/owner of "My Versiality Designs". An online T-shirt store that is just waiting to offend you. His goal in life is to "live off of the crazy shit" that comes to his head. Today, he speaks to us about social justice, understanding how the world works in this day and age, and much more!

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 Josh
 Good day fella is welcome to uncensored advice for men. My name's Josh. I'm a professional dude Bennett for about 40 years. And, but still I have a lot of questions about life sex, relationships, money. I go around asking some of my friends, Hey, what advice do you have for me? And then for other dudes? And then I record it. It's uncensored. Beware, we've interviewed pastors, porn stars, everything in between to bring advice from their perspective of what you guys need to hear. On today's show, we're going to bring someone who has a lot of experience behind the microphone. He's had his show and he's talked about some incredible and interesting topics. So Kennedy, welcome to the show, man. 


 Kennedy
 Thank you. Josh got to be here. Very glad to be here. 


 Josh
 Glad to be here too with you. Why don't you tell us about who you are? 


 Kennedy
 So I am actually an immigrant. I'm from the small country of Grenada. It's funny when I was a kid and everyone was either like from Jamaica or Trinidad and you're like, oh, where are you from? Like Grenada? They just look at me like where I've never heard of her, but came to Brooklyn when I was like two years old and I grew up in Brooklyn, I'm a Brooklyn Knight. That's why I consider myself. I mean, I live in Jersey now, but I'll always be from Brooklyn. I got into entertainment biz, but I was always on the business side. My best friend is an artist. We started like small companies, production company. And we started a publishing company. Cause he drew he's a cartoonist. I was like, so I was always on the business side handling the business creations and stuff like that. He challenged me one day after we saw a basket yacht exhibit two and I criticized the s**t out of it. 


 Kennedy
 I was like, this is garbage. Why is this in a museum? We actually, the Brooklyn museum. Like celebrities was that I was literally standing next to Leonardo DiCaprio, looking at a basket piece. I'm like, this looks like it was made by an eight year old, like why would a museum? And we're walking home. I was like, flipping out, like this is garbage trash. I'm like, y'all can do better than that. He was like, well, why don't you at that question literally started me on my creative path. I did some installation artwork after he asked me, he challenged me on that. Cause I, I can't draw, I can't sing. I can't dance, but I'm a very creative person. So my medium became writing. We did our first movie I wrote and produced it. He directed and I've kind of done a creative path ever since I did a pilot that I, for a show that I had. 


 Kennedy
 I've been doing standup and my pretty much my basic goal for the past 15 or so years is to, live off of the crazy s**t that comes into my head. 


 Josh
 You just breezed over something pretty damn cool. Yeah. We made our first movie, I wrote a book. I did a pilot. You got to dig in and start telling us, man, this first movie that you made, what was it? 


 Kennedy
 So it was called a death bed. It's actually on YouTube. If anyone wants to check it out, you have to look up fruition productions though. Cause there's several deathbed projects that come up if you just type in deathbed, but fruition productions. That was a production company that mom, my boy and I had so type in deathbed fruition productions it'll come up and it really came about because our mutual friend who he's actually was a, an artist, he was an illustrator for the Simpsons and family guy. He, I told them that, me and my boy we're going to do this movie. He sent me a book on film production. So I was reading it. Of course, one of the biggest costs in producing a film or making a film is location. There was like, they were like, if you can, reduce location as much as possible, just if you can get like a house, or even one room, you can do your film. 


 Kennedy
 And, and I was like, how do you do a movie in one room? Of course the first thing I thought it was like porn, You know, in a single room. In my head I was going with them like a room kitchen, like living room bedroom. I stuck on bedroom and I'm like bedroom, bed, death, bed. The idea came to me to write a whole movie about a guy who's on his death bed. I I'll just say that I'll ruin the ending because it's just kind of important to how I came up with, like, I was a big sixth sense fan. I was really impressed that to me, that was perhaps the best surprise ending that I've ever seen in a movie gram. Yeah. I was like, oh, I want to. And stuff like that. In this movie, everyone knows that he's dying except him. Was that like a, really a challenge to write the dialogue in a way or, to like naturally interrupt anyone that's about to say they, it was, I thought it was like, messing what created feet. 


 Kennedy
 So, and my boy, he was a real estate agent at the time. He had an apartment that he hadn't rented out yet. We literally hijacked that apartment and it was with the task. It was freezing. So we Shot the whole movie. It's only like an hour. It's technically like, once you go in at two an hour, it's a full length feature. We had to make sure it was an hour, but we filmed it all in over three-day weekend. Like, I paid for the whole thing and it started off horribly. Like everyone was late and I'm like, oh s**t, I just lost all my money. And this is not going to work. And he was directing. He was like, cam, I think we can do it. He was like, just blowing through scenes, that film until seen at the scene. And then it was finally done. 


 Kennedy
 I remember, like, were exhausted. We slept for me like eight hours, the total of that whole weekend. We sat on the, were like, I paid everybody went home and he and I sat on the floor of the kitchen of that apartment. We just looked at each other and I remember just, we just started smiling and laughing. Cause I was broke. He was on a fast, so he was feeling horrible, but were just laughing. I, that was the moment when I realized that this is what I should be doing. Because like I said, I, I spent all my money, we barely made it. We were exhausted physically and mentally, and yet I was happiest s**t. I was like, this is where I belong. I belong creating. That's what I've been trying to do ever since. 


 Josh
 The question you're sitting there next to Leonardo and you're like, Hey, what about this thing, man? He's like, I don't know. I I've got money to buy it. I might just buy it. And you're like, it's ugly, dude. I could, I could paint that myself. Right. Your friend said, why don't you? You're like, so before that was that not even a consideration, you've always been on the business side of things. 


 Kennedy
 No, totally. I mean, I got my boy and I, we wouldn't, break on each other. I think as the kids say these days, burnt each other, friendly, which is Disney's like, that was my creative outlet. It was like to stay creative with him on how to insult each other. Like we did that for years, but that was literally the extent of my creative outlet or expression. I was always, I realized later in life that I always wanted to be an entrepreneur. Like when I was a kid, kids, like I want to be a fireman. I want to be a policeman. My little kid brain would lodge it. There's like, no, I think I'm going to be a dentist because that's safe. You can die firemen, policemen. In my head, I never wanted to work in a desk. I wanted to have my own dentist of business. 


 Kennedy
 When I got to high school, I took an elective, a psychology love psychology. I became a psych major when I was in college. In my head I always wanted to have my own practice. Yeah. I didn't realize all this stuff until later on, but I always wanted to be an entrepreneur, have my own thing. I, I have a problem with taking orders from people, but I had never considered like a military thing. I don't like people telling me what to do in general. I always want to have my own thing. So, and like I said, I'd never, drew or paint during like that. My boy and I became, he wanted to be an artist. He was an artist from the time he was a kid. We got together and we like wanted to do something and he didn't like the business, then he just wanted to create. 


 Kennedy
 So were a great fit. I handled the business, like when we did the movie, he pretty much sat around and did nothing. I got the rehearsal studios. I did the auditions, I did this. I wrote everything that make you kind of collaborate with the writing. It was mostly like just going over after I've written, it said all that stuff got location that, and once it was time to shoot, I sat back and he took over and ran the whole shelf, ? It really worked out in that respect, in that regard. 


 Josh
 That I'm just taking a look at it's a winner of best feature narrative by Oregon film festival. 


 Kennedy
 Yeah. That was the only with the only award we won. So he knew someone in. 


 Josh
 The second, you're an award winning writer. 


 Kennedy
 My, I swear to you, my boy, his name is Andre. He has said that to me so many times. Every time he says, like, we won the award, I was like, oh s**t, that's right. We did it. My, my ex-wife, when were together, she would constantly tell me like, cause like I said, I'm still trying to live off of my brain. I have a regular day job now and all that stuff. When I get down or just feel this bond that, she'd have to remind me, like you won an award for making a movie and I'm like, oh s**t, that's right. Yeah. Yeah, I, it, it's, but it's one of those things like it's messed up, but like the movies on YouTube. Like in my screwed up brain, I'm like, oh, well, it's not a real movie. It didn't really win an award because only on YouTube. 


 Kennedy
 Yeah, I, I wanted them award, this, but as festival in Oregon, we actually took the, went to Florida. There was the black international film festival was in Miami and we took the film down there. Again, we didn't win it, but Andre had a friend who lived down there and we actually screened it for her neighbors in her driveway against the wall. We did a little Q and a afterwards. One of the neighbors said, the lead guy's name is Jeffrey. I think he was like, you're like Jeffrey was a, he's a real a*****e. You know? Every time I was getting ready to like really hate this guy, he would say something funny and just make me laugh. I swear to you, Josh, that to me was better than, well, it was almost as good. It was good as the award because that's exactly what I want it to happen. 


 Kennedy
 That's exactly the emotional roller coaster. I want to take people on. I love, I'm a huge, if I have a specialty, it's a dromedy comedy drama. I love mixing those two things together, juxtaposing them, pairing them up. The fact that, he totally disliked this dude, which was supposed to happen. The guy said something that made him laugh, which was supposed to happen. I felt that I did my job. So I was very happy. 


 Josh
 Congratulations, man. That's super cool. Have you ever been on the other side of the camera where you were an actor in a movie or a film? 


 Kennedy
 Not, not anything like small little things, small. Like I had a friend of mine, like I said, I was doing standup for a while and she was a standup comedian. She got this situation where somebody, she knew wanted to film a, a short or something like that. I played a small role in it. So just very little things, nothing major. I mean, I think I used to do more auditions way back in the day, but I never got anything, but even now, like I like probably do some acting. 


 Josh
 So. All right. I know we got to talk about cancel culture. We got to talk about conspiracies. I'm taking a look at some of the notes from the, from my producer and we got to talk about some cool stuff, but like, let's talk about comedy man. Dromedy is your theme, man. You're it's like you like mixing comedy and drama together. Give me an idea of some of the funny s**t that goes through your brain, ? Like, and the things that you'd like to share up on stage, like with the audience, like what are the, some of the things that pop in? 


 Kennedy
 The last time I was on stage was actually in November and like, I don't perform a whole lot, but that time, theme of, of that one was my divorce. Like my wife and I were getting a divorce and this. 


 Josh
 Is recent then? 


 Kennedy
 Yes. Like, like the divorce was finalized three weeks ago. 


 Josh
 Oh my gosh, what timing? 


 Kennedy
 Yeah. Like, I, we knew that we'd filed, because of COVID everything, it took a crazy long time, but we filed back in like November and or October and November is when I was doing this showcase in Jersey. I just did this whole thing about, my wife and I getting up, getting a divorce. One of my other shows, which is also on YouTube was completely and totally about my stroke. I had a stroke five years ago. 


 Josh
 Dang. 


 Kennedy
 I took a, it was like, I did a show like about a month or two later I had the stroke and then almost exactly a year after my last show, I came back and did another show and it was all about, my stroke, ? I have a dark sense of humor. Like I like, I'm one of those guys I used to like before all, before, like Tik TOK really became big and was, I was a YouTube guy and I would spend a couple of hours like watching guys like snap their legs off in skateboarding tricks and s**t like that. I find that stuff hilarious. And, and, and just to be clear, it's because they're trying to do a trick, like I'm not a Daredevil, a lot of this s**t. I see. I'm like, why would you even do that? If you're going to try it, then something bad might happen to you. 


 Kennedy
 I'm like, yeah, you kind of look for that. So, so yeah, so I, I have a dark sense of humor, and I'm a person who believes unlike all of this whole woke madness, that's going on. I believe anything can be funny if it's done. Right. And of course done right. Is a matter of opinion. So, but I've locked that hysterical, racist jokes against black people. Why? Because they were g*****n funny. I have no problem with that, so, 


 Josh
 Am I allowed to laugh at it? I'm white. If you couldn't tell, 


 Kennedy
 Of course you are like one of the things that I find most ridiculous. And, and so, prepare, Josh fans is, I saw, I never said the N word. I always say it if like people are offended or where, but in jail, I say, maybe I say it because that's how I talk. You know? To me, there's a difference between saying n***a and using the word, Nick, now you can read, if you want to say, Hey, I had this guy named Kennedy on my show and he just came out and said, I have no problem saying the word n***a. I wouldn't have a problem with you saying that because you just repeating what I said. 


 Josh
 Verbatim, that's fine. 


 Kennedy
 Like I said, you're saying it, you're not using it. You know? I don't know if you understand the difference while I'm trying to explain to you. 


 Josh
 Yeah. I'm not using a derogatory, it's like reading lyrics on a song and then this happened. And then this still won't say, 


 Kennedy
 What do you remember? That crazy story? Like, to me, it was crazy that the teacher who got like it was suspended or fired, because he was saying some rap lyrics to a bunch of kids who were saying the same lyrics or different types of lyrics similarly. And he and I watched the video. He was like, I don't understand. I was just saying the things that they were standard and maybe he was a great actor, but to me, he was like, I don't understand. I'm just speaking English, you know? But it's, you can't do that in. You can't fight the mad crazy mob, but that for me, and my perspective, I, if there's just a difference. And I understand it. And you know, 


 Josh
 Yeah. So I absolutely love people. I love dudes, right? Like I'm a happily married man. My wife is beautiful. I got three kids. I'm a happy dude. I've got everything that I really need in life. I started this show because I love dudes and I've gone through a lot of s**t in my life. I wanted to share the journey with other guys to help lift them up. Because I don't think, I find like a lot of guys are unwilling to have tough conversations like you and I are starting to tiptoe into. Right. Let's dive in you and I look very different. Right? Right. We're both dudes. We both, showed up today and you and I have had conversations before and you crack me up, by the way. I love you, man. There's certain things when it comes to culture and when it comes to people accepting one side or the other, if they're just listening in, they might not know. 


 Josh
 If they watch this on YouTube, maybe one day they go, this guy's African-American or black women. And I'm white actually. You're good. NATA American. 


 Kennedy
 Well, the legally I am, yes. I became, I became a citizen when I was like 20 centers. 


 Josh
 All right. But, but there's certain things that you can share that the culture will not cancel you. If I say the exact same thing or that like that teacher they'll get cancer. Why is it that, why is there that standard, like, explain that to me. I don't understand it. Okay. 


 Kennedy
 I think it's the same reason, the same thing with the me too movement. I think they're actually both, they're both spawned from the same idea or, or place. 


 Josh
 Okay. 


 Kennedy
 I think the need to move in is way overboard. It's crazy. I understand its origins because there was a time where men could do really s****y things to women and get away with it. Right. Women had much less power. They had much less influence. They had much less resources and society was fine with that because that's the way it was. And it wasn't right. I'm saying that completely flat out was f****d up. It was wrong. You probably heard this, the needle swung way far to the other side. Yeah. Now it's, as soon as the woman says, Hey, that guy made me feel uncomfortable. You are now across here. You know, you are now a target. You can almost never see anything that can get you out of situation. You just have to either take the punishment or wait it out. You know, which isn't right. 


 Kennedy
 Either. You know? It's like, so it's the same thing with, with, with race. Obviously this country has been f****d up to black people. And. Now it's swung in a situation where again, if you're speaking regular English, quoting someone else, you've committed a horrible crime and you have to be canceled. That's ridiculous. The problem is, of course, is that we're dealing with people, dealing with humans and, finding the middle ground is always just it's, it's way harder than it should be. Like this whole idea of justice, obviously it's a fluid thing, Southern people with, pitchforks and the Confederate flag in a pickup truck, pick justice as one thing, and, black dudes drinking, forties on the corner with big rims on their cars, things just as another thing. That's the issue that we have, I, I tend to believe and I'm sure people can be like, no, you're wrong. 


 Kennedy
 I tend to believe I have a more fair. Perspective, one justice, but again, it's mine and you have yours and there's gonna be a segment of your fans who have theirs. So that's why I said it, but yeah, I think it's just, we overcompensate women, we're overcompensating with black people. I, I think that, and let me tell you one of the things that really upsets me now these days is that there, the, the things that they're doing to compensate, I don't think it's actually helping anybody. Like, I can speak from the black perspective, from my perspective, this whole June team thing, ? Okay. So we get another holiday, Big f*****g deal. I was that whole black lives matter thing, annoyed the s**t out of me because not because I don't think, black lives don't matter. Not because I don't think that, what the police did was wrong. 


 Kennedy
 It was because hashtags, aren't going to save my life when the wrong cop meets me on the wrong night. Right. I don't give a s**t about, the, the, the tweaks and the, this and that, oh, Amazon has black lives matter on their websites. So what are the laws changed? Has any officials? Yeah, I, I was, I had a violent, attitude towards the police when I was younger. I want to see a lot of them hurt. I'm not gonna lie to it, lie about it, but I've come to realize that they're doing what they're allowed to do. They're just doing, one of the things on the show that, I told you about our show on YouTube, we had several shows about just the constant killing of black people by police. It was something like, let's say an in the span of four months, 17 unarmed black people were murdered. 


 Kennedy
 Now I'm not gonna say killed. They were murdered by police, not a single cop. A single day in jail, you know? So why do they keep doing it? Because they can, because they won't see any jail time. I'm like, okay, so her name, those cops might be a solution, but it's probably going to cause more problems. What about the mayors of those cities? What about the governors of those states? I'm like, yo put those dudes in jail because their system is allowing these police to murder innocent people. By and large, most people would be like, yeah, those dudes were murdered. If we agreed that murders were taking place on camera and there's no punishment, then that system is broken. If that official mayor or governor doesn't want to change that system or adjusting, or has some type of g*****n discussion about it, then maybe you shouldn't be in office. 


 Kennedy
 Maybe it should be in prison where you might get raped a few times after that. Maybe you'll want to come up. Yeah. I'm all about street justice, bro. I don't like people getting away with s**t and just walking away. Scot-free so I'm just like, but that's my whole point. Like the hashtags and all that stuff that I wasn't going to do, anything, it hasn't done anything. I've had arguments with several people about this, black and white who were like, oh, this takes time. I'm like, how many, one guy, a white friend of mine, ? I didn't want to talk about this at all. I actually turned away from all the news about George Floyd law and stuff. People kept coming to, because I have a reputation in my circle of being like the black radical, instead of no one, what do you think about does that? 


 Kennedy
 This guy, he's a really nice dude. I love him. He's a friend of mine, but he's also a white guy who grew up wait, so there's a certain things he's not going to stay you just said. He said to me like, he's like, dude, I understand your rage and it's totally justified, but we have to just be patient, let the system take its time. I said to him, like, you can afford to wait. I can't. Because like I just said, if I made the wrong cop on the wrong day, you'll be at my funeral. Chances are, that's not going to happen to you so you can afford to be patient. He all can say was, yeah, I understand what you're saying. That's all he can do is understand. As I'm saying, like no one wants to do anything real, to address these issues. So, having people canceled and all that s**t that's, I mean, yeah, I guess, well, as wrong as I think that is in certain instances, it's certainly more effective or it does more than a damn hashtag. 


 Kennedy
 So at least give them that. 


 Josh
 Yeah. So, I mean, we have a show called uncensored advice for men, right? On the show, we've interviewed a lot of different people. We've had maybe almost 200 episodes so far and some of the stuff like that, my guests are sharing or, like I'm nervous, like this whole thing of like getting canceled, this is an impact show. I'm not making money for this. This is, this is for, to lift dudes out of dark times and that they might be experiencing in their life. Like this whole cancel culture thing is terrifying because this is an impact show. This has good intention to love people and to have these conversations. I really appreciate you sharing whatever the hell you want and have whatever belief you want and do that. We could come and have a conversation about it. Right, right. You don't have to agree with me. 


 Josh
 I don't have to agree with you, but at the end of the day, I respect you and I love you and we can have a talk, right. That's the purpose of the show, but I have my businesses and all that stuff. This makes me nervous because people have power that they could go, what? Josh is, whatever boots. And, and to me, that's not justice. Right. Let me ask you a question, dude. All this was going on in the world, I mean, it still is right. But how old are you? 


 Kennedy
 50. 


 Josh
 50. You look good, dude. Good man. Yeah, we got the same amount of gray and I'm 10 years younger than you. All right. I do have more hair on top than you do, but yeah, 


 Kennedy
 You're. 


 Josh
 Welcome. All right. So, when the world was going through, black lives matter in Floyd and there was a lot of riots and such like that. And, and, and there was a lot of anger. How do you protect yourself from becoming angry or getting caught up in things that can rile you up, man? How do you stay balanced? Or did you, 


 Kennedy
 Well, like I said, in this, for that whole, George Floyd situation, not, I literally like a lot of things today and I'm sure people would be like, that's not really healthy or that's not, a good way to handle I live. I just, I just, I stepped back from society, I, like I said, I used to be, I still have like an Instagram account, a Tik TOK account, YouTube better that I almost hardly ever use them now. I, so many times people come to him like, Hey, did you hear about such? I'm like, Nope. Hey, that was crazy. Right. The sudden system, like, what's that like? Yeah. I, I, I have to, because like I say, I wasn't, I wasn't angry kid, maybe my friends who, they used to call me angry Kim, because I was just, yeah. I just had issues. Like I had mother issues, just to be really busy. 


 Kennedy
 I haven't had issues with my mom, but yeah, I was, I had a temper and I used to, like I said, I was known as, the radical guy, like, I like, I, I believe in street justice too, for certain situations, I don't think as good as our judicial system is, especially compared to the rest of the world, everyone will agree. Like it has holes. There are bad people who get away with s**t because of b******t, there, things has happened. I was much angrier, when I was younger and I, I talked with the stall up to, just aging wisdom, man. And, and, and just knowing now that very few things are going to change certainly in any reasonable span of time. I just had to just step away from all of the nonsense, especially, what are the things that really irritate me about social media now is the, the proliferation of, I don't wanna say fake news, but people just setting up or creating fixed scenarios for likes and clicks. 


 Kennedy
 Like if I have to keep on wondering, is this real, or is this the stage I'm not interested? So that's how so, but in general, I just stay away from it now, as much as I possibly can. And, I was watching a video of the day and I think it was the guy who played house on house. MV got his name. 


 Josh
 I don't remember his name. I know who you're talking. 


 Kennedy
 About. Right. He was on the Graham Norton show, which I think is the best talk show in the world. And. 


 Josh
 This is number one, 


 Kennedy
 No, 

 


 Kennedy
 He said, not passively, just, I forgot the word to use, but just like not caring about things has become almost like a disease, apathy, thank you very much has become like a crippling disease, for society. And, and I understand what he's saying, and I agree for a good amount. I agree with that. Also it's the thing that's kept me saying, oh, I have to be apathetic to a lot of things because I'm gonna, I see things a certain way. A lot of people don't see it my way, and I'm not saying that they have to, but I've just like, I just can't deal with the attitudes of people these days, ? I have to just step back, I just stepped back. 


 Josh
 So you're in Jersey now, right? 


 Kennedy
 Yeah. 


 Josh
 Cool. All right. You say, you talk this up, angry as a kid, violent, radical, like that was your, that was what was inside you. Right. You could chalk it up to, fear on the streets, mommy issues. You say, as you, I got mommy and daddy issues too, but I'm 40, I'm figuring that out. I'm unwinding a lot of s**t, right? Yeah. You, you say, as you got older and wiser, you learned some things, what are some of the things that you learned? Right. So maybe unplugging from different media. Hey, I don't know if this is actually helpful or real. I'll unplug for that. I'll unplug from certain conversations where you're like, dude, I just don't care. Right? Like I'll be apathetic towards it. What are some of the other things that you feel has been helpful to you that you could share with us dudes. 


 Kennedy
 Understanding how things work. When I say things in this country, I mean like society, how media works, how politicians work, people, you get tons and tons of messages from crazy amount of sources, which is one of the issues. That's the deal that's, going on with the children today, with Facebook and YouTube and Instagram, they get all these messages and it's like, screw in these kids' heads up. Just knowing that there's only a couple of reasons why you get all these messages and predominantly it's so that some corporation can make money. Like at the end of the day, that's the driving force in this country for a lot of things, again, going back, I was a big football fan, huge football fan. And I'm an idiot jets fan. So, they'll humble me a lot, but , The whole thing with Colin Kaepernick and the kneeling, and it's like, why was that a big deal? 


 Kennedy
 Did the owners really care about it? No, but the fans did. And they do what the fans want. Why? Because the fans pay them money and them millionaires and billionaires, I don't know if people remember this football player named Adrian Peterson, right? Adrian Peterson. He was one of the best running backs of his time. He got caught and he admitted to beating his kid with a switch for y'all. You don't know a switch as a branch, I don't know about other communities, but in the black community, especially back in the old days, that was one of the tools of your mom felt. 


 Kennedy
 Yeah. He's like, Hey, that's how we discipline our kids and his family and blah, blah, that's child abuse. It was outraged and dah, dah, he wrote, he was looking, he was working, playing for the Minnesota Vikings at the time everyone was calling for the Vikings to cut him from the team because he's beaten children that are de Vikings. Didn't touch him. Vikings never punished him. They never cut them. And you know why? Because Adrian Peterson ran for almost 1500 yards the year before, if you don't know, 1500 yards is a phenomenal amount for running back, they were making him money. I'm sorry. He was making them money and money ruled the day. Yeah. 

 


 Kennedy
 Exactly. Dash was everything around me, baby. Go Wu Tang know, and I've said this for the longest time. If Ray rice probably remember Ray rice, another running back, he was caught on that video camera in the elevator, knocking his girlfriend out and dragging her out of the elevator. He got suspended for a team and he's never played football since now. Now am I saying that it's right. What he did? Of course not. I'll guarantee you if Ray rice ran for 1500 yards that year, before he wouldn't have lost this job, why wait rise got fired? Because he only ran for 472 yards that year. Even now Deshaun Watson, that's the story of the day, the Sean Watson sexually inappropriate with what? 20 over 60 something or 20 something misuses and all there's a lot. He just settled 20 of his 24 lawsuits. The Browns just signed him to $250 million. 


 Kennedy
 Why? Because he's a great quarterback. I seen, I normally don't read the comments because they usually degenerate into just racial nonsense, most stories, but women were saying like, is this what the NFL thinks of us? Yes. It's what the NFL thinks you think. Because they have football players dressing up in with pink shoes and pink towels for breast cancer awareness month that they're doing that because they care that women have breast cancer. Now, of course they don't want women to have breast cancer, but they're doing it for the publicity to make them seem like they care to bring in more money. When it comes to women in their breasts or a quarterback that can get them to the super bowl and picking the quarterback every time, because it's the super bowl means money. So it's just things like that. Like understanding why things are done or not done. 


 Kennedy
 It made me upset when I first found out about it. Again, over time and it's like, this is how things are, this is why I don't get overly bummed or overly excited when I see things. Cause like, okay, why exactly is this happening? Oh, it's probably because of that. Again, you have examples that will support these. There is like, okay. Again, that's why I just pull back bill, 


 Josh
 Do you think so let's use those examples. The pink shoes, the hashtags, black lives matter. The, I stand with Ukraine, the pride month, all whatever someone's beliefs are, but when corporations start to use those to manipulate or use those to profit or something like that, are they missing the actual mission behind why these things started or the meaning and the purpose of the hashtag or the month or the w what are your thoughts on that, man, I'd love to hear it. 


 Kennedy
 I think they understand the meaning of them it'll get lost eventually, but they understand it again. I just don't think they care. It's like, okay, black lives matter or whatever. They knew exactly what Khan Colin Kaepernick was doing. They never said Colin Kaepernick was, goes racist. They never said con cabinet was disrespecting the troops or anything like that. They knew. If the fans were good with it, they would have been fine with it, but because the fans weren't, that's why everything went south. Yeah, they, they, if it happens, if the just right thing happens to serve the bottom line, corporations will be completely down with it supported, et cetera. If it happens not to, like, in the case of Colin Kaepernick, he didn't do anything wrong. They, they knew, they said he didn't break a single NFL guideline or bylaw, anything like that. For some reason, nobody wanted to hire him because they knew the backlash and they didn't want that. 


 Kennedy
 You know? Unfortunately for Colin Kaepernick, he didn't have a great enough season right before that happened. That was Aaron Rogers or Tom Brady. Ganti either to never missed a game. So, do they, they don't, they don't miss the message. They completely understand what the messages, but they're not, they don't care about the message. Their thing is how can this message or this movement or whatever benefit them and their stockholders and all the rest of that stuff. That's, that's what it's all about. So, and again, if that message gets lost, they'll be fine, or they'll deal with it because that's not the purpose. The purpose is to make money. 


 Josh
 Yeah, dude, I can't believe you're, you've got some depth, bro. It's not even noon and we're talking about some deep stuff. Like, I really appreciate, like, I'm on my second cup of coffee. We haven't even had lunch yet, but we're digging into some stuff and I appreciate it, man. I appreciate you open, with this stuff. Right? There's things that there's things that different cultures will experience things differently when the black lives matter and Floyd, when those things were going out, did you get any backlash from your own community, if you weren't as radical as they are, or if you weren't hashtag everything or like, did you experience any, any friction from your own community about these issues. 


 Kennedy
 In, in a single word? No. Partly because my generation, we're not big on the whole hashtag, so that wasn't really an issue. 


 Josh
 How do I do a hashtag on this stupid call? Right. Okay. All right. Point taken. 


 Kennedy
 As far as like the discussion or the, the point of view. Let's just split it down the line, like, with my black friends, they were more outrageous than I was. They were, no, they were more outwardly outraged. And I was, you know, because. They have, I don't want to see a more optimistic. I consider myself a realist, several many people consider me a pessimist. I I'm assuming I'm a realist, ? I think a lot of people want certain things to not be true. I just want the truth. The truth is ugly, then it's ugly. They were just like, oh my God, can you believe another one? Can you believe the third in two months? I'm like, yeah, I can believe it. Why can't with my white friends, obviously it was just, again, they were Saturday and I was, they were, you, some people came to tears, and it's not like, I didn't believe them. 


 Kennedy
 I totally didn't believe them. Again, my whole thing is, okay, now that we've cried. What do we do now? Yeah. You know that to me, that it was just, it always goes back to, you know, how has any of this going to help us? You know? Again, I get who wants to get no one wants reparations. They don't want to, they don't want to upset their lives in order to make our lives better. I understand that. At the same time, then stop whining and complaining and crying about how things are horrible, because you're going to let them stay horrible. You know? Why even bother going through all of this drama? You know? So, yeah. 


 Josh
 Drama. I know a guy who likes to mix drama and comedy is this guy right here. Right? Let's, let's do like a fork in the road. I've got, I've got two different directions we could go. There might even be a third one that I'm missing, but I'll let you choose the path. All right. One, we could go, some of the things that you put in the show notes and talked with our producers and is talking about conspiracies. So we could go down that route. You got a little smile there. We can talk about standup comedy and how that w and how comedy can be used for a force for good to talk about, the things that you want to discuss. And maybe there's an option. See that I completely missed. What are, what are your thoughts. 


 Kennedy
 So often? You could be a religion and selfishly that's because I actually wrote a book on religion. 


 Josh
 Well, then let's go there because we can promote your bird for your book. First of all, what's the book's title. 


 Kennedy
 Oh, if I may. 


 Josh
 Please plug, wait, it's a little blurry. Remember, some people are listening in, so they can't read. Right. 


 Kennedy
 It's called, he said it, I didn't book, report Brooklyn and style. 


 Josh
 Hey, wait, what's the tagline again? The, 


 Kennedy
 A biblical book report, Brooklyn style. 


 Josh
 I got it. Brooklyn style Bible. Go for it. 


 Kennedy
 Exactly. The, the origins of this is I was going to, I was planning on filming a documentary. This is when I was starting to get into into my, my creative mode. There was a, there's a was, I believe there was certainly not enforced. Now, a black kind of religious cult called the black Israelites. Some of you might know them. They were big in New York, in Philly. They would be in times square back when you can stand around in times square and scream at people and that Brooklyn. Basically the black Israelites were obviously a group of black people who believed that people of color, black people, Latino, Indian, were the true descendants of the 12 tribes of Israel. And so we are the chosen people. We are God's children and white people and, or Jews. They were phoneys. Of course they are the white devil. 


 Kennedy
 These guys would stand on the corner and they had like a pseudo, like Islamic garb with like long robes and turbines. Gartland sitting s**t on their hands and it'll usually be like, at least three of them. It'd be one guy with the microphone plugged into a big speaker, another guy who read and like another one watching, or like security cause usually been the big dude. Basically how it would go was that these guys would preach about to the people of color, how they're not living their lives properly. Now, with the fornication and drinking alcohol and not serving God and dah, dah, and to everyone else, they will tell them how we have to kill you because you are the bringers of evil, especially white people, of course, the white devil, and, but the thing was, so he'd be like, the guy would be like, and we have to rid the world of the white oppressor. 


 Kennedy
 As I said, in John 13 read, and he screamed my read and the guy with the Bible would have the Bible open to Jeremiah 13. He would read the passage where it would tell us people of color, why or how we have to kill the way, man. Again, remember from the beginning of this conversation, I have a dark sense of humor. This s**t was whole aureus to me. I thought it was funny as hell, ? And, and it was, there would always be like, at least one white guy, who'd be like, but that's not right. That's not what the Bible or any shade of white devil next screaming at him through these microphones. Hilarious. I decided I'd never seen any official video or documentary on them. I'm like, I have to film this. I have to do a documentary on these dudes. Cause this is going to be the most entertaining s**t ever. 


 Kennedy
 And so no kidding. I saw, I went up to one of them like on the corner and I was like, Hey man, is it okay if I film you guys? Now, these dudes had a reputation. They would, didn't just preach violence. They were violent. I heard stories of like guys like running for blocks because they thought that their girlfriend was cheating on them and like watched them to their girlfriend's house. We're like beat the s**t out of whoever was in there. Like these dudes, they kind of, I won't say all, but there were some who were from the prisons or gangs and s**t like that. Where, they, this is how they turned over a new leaf was joining the black kids realize. I was very careful like, Hey, was it okay? You know, that or not? They were like, yeah, sure. The, he gave me a pamphlet, like come to a meeting this day. 


 Kennedy
 I did a first test of video and again, not. So I was raised Catholic. I was, I was a good Catholic boy. I went to Sunday school for years. Did the first communion, the confirmation, the whole thing. What these guys were saying, like, I never really heard before, but you were reading from the Bible. So I was in my head. I was like, they must be twisting the wide, the Bible word somehow because God is not violent and he's not evil and doesn't do all this horrible s**t. I decided that if I want to interview these guys on some type of equal footing, I had to get some knowledge of the Bible. I decided to read the Bible and I started from Genesis. Before I even got out of Genesis I'm reading stuff, I'm like, this doesn't make any sense. Like one of the first things I read was with the guidance, Adam and Eve were hiding in the garden of Eden and God came to the garden and he said, Adam, wherefore out, down at a meeting. 


 Kennedy
 I was like, wait a minute, God can't find Adam. Like, he's the only dude on the planet. He's the only dude in this garden. You're asking like, where are you with? Like, just stuff like that. Just wasn't adding up to the God that I was told about in church and by my mom for all of these years. It was just more and more things like that. I was like, is anybody seeing this? Like, do they realize what's in here? I was like, I have to write about this. I put the documents, you on the back burner. I ended up reading the entire Bible cover to cover. At the outset I was highlighting and I was just highlighting all the screwed up s**t, all the murders, all the baby killings, all the inset, all of that stuff. When I was done highlighting, I, I found this website called the Bible gateway.com still up by the way. 


 Kennedy
 It has like over 90 versions of the Bible in it, which in and of itself is ridiculous. I found the one that I was reading, which was the king James Bible, which I looked up is the most commonly used Bible in America. Everything I highlighted, I found online in the, in Bible gateway, I copied and pasted into a spreadsheet. I thought I copied and pasted everything. I highlighted. I started like sorting them out into like subject matters, which became my chapters. I, I just read everything that I highlighted and was just writing my thoughts on them. And that became my book. Like, I have chapters in there. Oh. One of the things I did because, I didn't want this to have, from my perspective, one of my chapters is called, can I get a witness? Now that's a saying in black churches, like, can I get a witness for people to, cheer and support, whatever the button, the message saying, I interviewed what I call three Bible experts. 


 Kennedy
 One was a, a Bible nut. He just knew he was crazy as s**t. He thought like, dolphins can talk and s**t like that. There wasn't a passage or a sentence I asked him about that he didn't know and was able to recite the sentences before like, yeah. Many passages that the God said, thou shalt not talk amongst the, oh yeah, gosh, I'm not talking amongst the circumstance. None of that, he knew his Bible back and forth. Interviewed him, interviewed a minister who was in his early fifties at the time and was ordained since he was 18. He was a baby for about 30 something years. And I will be at confidence. Cause this is like one of the, my favorite parts of my book. I asked him about the story of Joe and the biggest story of job that, religious people always use it for his patients and dedication to the Lord. 


 Kennedy
 Joe lost everything. He had, he lost his family. He lost his oxygen and his sheep in Atlanta, not a da. He still was faithful to the Lord. Because of his faithfulness, the Lord blessed him by getting everything back so that the moral of the story is no matter how bad things are, be faithful to the Lord, worship love him. You will be rewarded at some point in time. No one ever talks about is that in the Bible, what it actually says is that Satan came to God and God started boasting about job and how he was faithful. Satan was like, but that's because he's rich and all that stuff. If he wasn't rich, then he wouldn't give a s**t about you. Paraphrasing, of course. God was like, oh yeah, well you go ahead. You, you take all this stuff, but leave the man alone. The Satan went down and killed job's animals and destroyed his land, killed his family. 


 Kennedy
 He came back and God was like, see, I told you, Joe was, he's a righteous sleep. Satan was like, well that's because you didn't touch the mat. You didn't harm him at all. God was like, do whatever you want to him just don't kill him. That's when Satan and that's when Joel was still with the boils and the sores and . I asked this minister, I was like, so you're familiar with surgery. He's like, yeah. I was like, why did God have to do that? First of all, it's Satan. He doesn't have to prove anything to save him, but okay. Let's say he did couldn't he have just conjured up like a magic eight ball and like, Hey, say, this is what was going to happen. If the da, why was it necessary torture and kill this man and his family to prove a point. 


 Kennedy
 He just looked at me and he said, I never thought of that before 30 years as an ordained minister. And he never thought about that. He actually said, you made me rethink my God. In my head, I was like, oh, but it just proves the point. This is one of the reasons why I wrote the book. People don't read the Bible, they just hear it. Or they read the specific points that their pastor or their minister or whoever tells them to read. The Bible is f****d up, man. If you read it is so clear that it's just man-made s**t. I mean, this is the part where Moses had to remind God of his pledge to not kill the Israelites, remind God forgot. That's what you're telling me. You know, God loves to kill children. He, several times he told me Israelites, go to whatever land, in the 40 years that they had to claim their land and walk with the desert, go to such and killed the men, women and children leader. 


 Kennedy
 They specifically said in the Bible kill the children. God's words. I'm like, this is who your people worship. This is the guy who, and, but again, most people don't even know that. I read that too. That part to a friend of mine who was a Christian. She was like, no, you must be reading it wrong. I was like, no, I told him to back check that verse. We were at work. I mean, she was at her job. She called one of her coworkers like, Hey Betty, do you have your Bible? She was like, yeah, can I hold for a minute? She went and read it. And it was silence. She said, something must be wrong. This can't be right. She had, she wouldn't believe her own eyes because the brainwashing was deep. You know? This is like I'm like, and this is why, where do people think homophobia comes from? 


 Kennedy
 Because we just decided like, oh yeah, let's just go target these people. No, it specifically says in the Bible, if a man laugh with man, as he does with women, it's like it's blasphemous and they must be killed. It says this in the book, this s**t doesn't come from nowhere. You know? Again, not now that we're more evolved and this and that. And you know, now it's cherry picking. Oh, well, it didn't really mean that, or he messed up, but that's what it says. And people have been following s**t. I'm like, what about the poor gay kid, who has to hide in the closet for years and years from his own family, because their family thinks that homosexuality is a sin, ? His friends think homosexuality is a sin. These people are persecuted or again, they have to live a lie because of that damn book. 


 Kennedy
 And again, people like, hold on. No, it's not the Bible isn't that, but all of this stuff comes from somewhere down the line. It says it in the book of knowledge, the book of truth, kill this person, kill that person killed her. I'm like, I hope that, in part, my book can free some people from these shackles, from this imprisonment, or even, sexual immersion. I have like free friends. I could think of, there are three women who have suffered psychological issues because of their Christian upbringing, especially with regard to their relationships with their husband or their boyfriend or just, they just repressed. They just guilty. You know, they feel bad about this. They feel bad about that because they'll just like, can't do this, can't do that. You're a s**t. You're a w***e, dah, dah, where does all this stuff come from? Mare? You know? 


 Kennedy
 I'm just like free yourself people, ? And, and the one that I laid specifically in my book, I made sure to copy. Like, if two lines are the focus, I made sure to print those two lines, print the two lines of before it and the two lines after it. No one could say, oh, he's taken out of context. No, it says it right there. Oh, and lastly, I'm sorry. Lastly, Moses, the 10 commandments movie, when the whole thing, the reason why the Egypt got hit with all the plagues is because Pharaoh wouldn't let the children of Israel, the children of Egypt go. So God punished them with the templates. No, no. Now, if you read the Bible after the third or fourth plague, Pharaoh was like, yo, I'm done. You got it. Moses, you can leave, take the people get out of here. This phrase, which popped up at least three more times in the Bible and God hardened Pharaoh's heart so that he would not let the children of Israel go. 


 Kennedy
 All of a sudden parents like, no, you can't leave. You're going to stand up. And then more plates come. Two things we know here, God's a monster because obviously the 10th plague was the death of the firstborn of you. Even the peasant farmers, way off who had nothing to do with this, their first child died because of this plate. Why did this play happened? Because God took away. Pharaoh's free. Will. This is what most Christians will tell you is the explanation for all the horrible s**t in the world is because we have free. Will God won't stop you. If you want to rape that kid, that's your choice. Not God, but wait a minute, God, right here on three separate occasions took away. Pharaoh's free will to let the children visual go. Clearly if God wants it to stop your free will, he can do it. 


 Kennedy
 The reason why these guys are raping little girls must because God wants it to, because God can stop him. If he wants to, he clearly done it before, but now he just chooses not to, or it doesn't exist at all. So. Again, my book is out there, it's on Amazon. I have a website. He said an I didn't dot com. If you just want a new perspective. Of course, again, dark humor, specialist book is covered in sarcasm just when he's dead, but it tells the truth that I get I'm reading from the Bible itself. So, and I, I, my wife at the time, she was like, well, what if people trying to challenge us? Like, please let them come because there's no way you can refute what I'm saying in this book, because it's in your book, it's in your Bible. That's why I said, he said it, I didn't. 


 Josh
 This is a recent like writing, like, cause you go back to the guy's preaching on the street, reading the Bible. And you're like, that sounds pretty intense. Let me go read this. And you're like, oh s**t. It does say some of this stuff. You went back and read it at that point. How, how long ago was that? 


 Kennedy
 That was I actually, I, I first I finished writing the book in 2011. 


 Josh
 Okay. Got it. So, I mean, this is the second half of your life where you grew up Catholic and then you, you saw this incident with these guys preaching on the street, you read the Bible and you're like, wow. I actually have to revisit my belief system. Okay. 


 Kennedy
 Well, well, no, not exactly. I got, I, I, I never really believed. I, I always say, why was it church? There was a McDonald's across the street. I was more focusing on whether were going to go to McDonald's afterwards, the guys who said, but somebody which is also a fascinating thing to me, why some people hear this stuff and then it consumes their whole life moving forward. There's people like me who hear it and then like, yeah, that doesn't work for me. So I always, I've literally having a conversation about this a couple of weeks ago, ? Cause again, black community, strong Christian, people are living this stuff for their whole lives and it's like, and sometimes they believe in, sometimes they just do it for, because it's what they know, , 


 Josh
 While going through this process, what was something that, so you mentioned some things that were absolutely absurd. There, did you pull anything that you found helpful or that you struggle with that you're like, maybe there isn't like, as you were going through and writing this book because one of the things you said is guys challenged me. Right? The challenges let's see it from both perspectives. You can, it came out at approach of going. I want to show all the things right. That I can point out in the Bible. Did you find any, anything on the flip side where it actually changed your mind in another direction? 


 Kennedy
 Well, no, because the funny thing is, and I think I may have written this in the book. The reason why I chose all of this horrible stuff, one, because it's there, but two, we already know the good stuff. That's what, that's one of the reasons why this stuff won't go away because we know how, brave Jesus was and how loving he was. We know how valued Moses was. We heard this stuff all over the place all the time, our whole wives, the reason why I wrote this too, because this stuff we don't ever hear, ? I didn't have to like, think about why did this good stuff? I wouldn't know the good stuff or at least the supposed to good stuff. This is the stuff that I'm like, wow, this was in there. Holy s**t. You know? 


 Josh
 Yeah. Well, man, I really appreciate you sharing your thoughts and your book on here. What we could do is, put the show notes and put the links of the books and such like that, make sure that you send that over to me. We'll put that in the show notes. If people want to check it out, if guys want to check it out, they can do that. If some guys want to have a conversation with you and you said, Hey, if you want to challenge me, please like, you're like, please do so, which I love that. I love the attitude of that. It's Hey, I'm doing this and I'm open to hear a conversation. Right? That's the purpose of mission of this show. As you're writing books in Azure, doing standup comedy and you're doing these things, what does man, we're running out of time? What questions should I have asked you during this interview that I screwed up and did not ask you because we've covered a lot of different stuff, bro. 


 Kennedy
 We have, I mean, I know you, this is the show about men and advice to men. I don't know if, I mean, I think everyone gets, can go and glean something from what I've said or different things that I've said. As far as the guys in particular, I think we, kind of says like relationships, like again, I'm divorced. My wife was still, we're still great friends. I love the woman. She loves me. Marriage just wasn't the right vehicle for our relationship. I think that is one thing that, I in my head and make many more, so women, but men to just be honest about where you are, who you are, being honest with the person, because that's really what the problem is. I mean the divorce rate is, again, I'm a contributor it's, it's huge. It's because I think too many people don't really know each other, before they decide to take that step, just be honest, man, and, and they're alternative ways to, have someone close to you in your life, explore that. 


 Kennedy
 Again, just the honest and accepting, let people be who they are that, if there are any ladies out there who are like, Hey, this guy sounds interesting. The main thing I need in their relationship now is just let me be me and I will let you be you. I think that's a great, starting block for a successful relationship, 


 Josh
 Man, Kennedy. I appreciate you coming on the show, always a pleasure talking with you. And once again, send me those links. I'll put it in here, fellow dudes out there, if you're struggling working on something and you want to come talk about it here on the show or connect with any of our past guests, like you can head on over to uncensored advice for men.com. You can fill out a form or you could go into the show notes of each episode and connect directly to the guests and you can ask them questions. Let's always do so in a way, that's respectful in a way that's loving. I just want to encourage you guys that whatever you're working through, we're working through it together as dudes. That's the purpose and mission of the show is to give you guys a place to talk or a place to listen if you need to. 


 Josh
 Once again, uncensored advice for men.com, fill out a quick form, maybe get you on the show next till then we'll talk to you all on the next episode. 

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Kennedy Ross

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Kennedy is a serial entrepreneur and creative, on the never-ending quest to live off of the darkness that emanates from his brain. He is the founder/co-founder of an indie film production company, an internet radio/public access TV show, a provocative author, article writer, installation "artist, and the creator/owner of "My Versiality Designs". An online T-shirt store that is just waiting to offend you.

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